* No more report of quantity of rules successfully loaded @ 2023-05-23 23:12 warron.french 2023-05-24 14:42 ` Steve Grubb 0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread From: warron.french @ 2023-05-23 23:12 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Linux Audit [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1026 bytes --] Hi, I am running auditd-3.0.7-4 on an Alma Linux v8.8. I know that for all of RHEL 6 and RHEL 7 variants that I worked with, to include CentOS (not Stream) that after I rebooted a server or restarted the auditd service (with -e 1 set) that I would 100% of the time get a report in /var/log/messages about the quantity of rules that successfully loaded. I could compare that to my unified rules file (/etc/audit/rules.d/Unified.rules - for a reference) and strip out the typical for auditd Control rules (-D, -e 1, -f 1, -b, -r, for examples) and then assess if I had the full set of files loaded or not. With this implementation of auditd, on version 3.0.7-4, I am not getting those results anymore. Am I looking in the wrong place, because for me this is important information? Yes, I know that I can also manually execute "auditctl -l | wc -l" and get that information too, but I was wondering if this is planned or if I am looking in the wrong place, or what to do. Thanks, -------------------------- Warron French [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 1440 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 107 bytes --] -- Linux-audit mailing list Linux-audit@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-audit ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
* Re: No more report of quantity of rules successfully loaded 2023-05-23 23:12 No more report of quantity of rules successfully loaded warron.french @ 2023-05-24 14:42 ` Steve Grubb 2023-05-24 20:01 ` Richard Guy Briggs 0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread From: Steve Grubb @ 2023-05-24 14:42 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Linux Audit Hello Warron, On Tuesday, May 23, 2023 7:12:07 PM EDT warron.french wrote: > Hi, I am running auditd-3.0.7-4 on an Alma Linux v8.8. > > I know that for all of RHEL 6 and RHEL 7 variants that I worked with, to > include CentOS (not Stream) that after I rebooted a server or restarted the > auditd service (with -e 1 set) that I would 100% of the time get a report > in /var/log/messages about the quantity of rules that successfully loaded. It has never done that unless someone else has a patch they did not send upstream. > I could compare that to my unified rules file > (/etc/audit/rules.d/Unified.rules - for a reference) and strip out the > typical for auditd Control rules (-D, -e 1, -f 1, -b, -r, for examples) and > then assess if I had the full set of files loaded or not. > > With this implementation of auditd, on version 3.0.7-4, I am not getting > those results anymore. > Am I looking in the wrong place, because for me this is important > information? It has never done that. auditctl -D gives the output of auditctl -s as a convenience. But auditctl -s has never reported how many rules are loaded. I don't think the kernel has a counter. It has a variable for if any rules are loaded, but not the quantity. > Yes, I know that I can also manually execute "auditctl -l | wc -l" and get > that information too, but I was wondering if this is planned or if I am > looking in the wrong place, or what to do. It has never done that and is not planned. -Steve -- Linux-audit mailing list Linux-audit@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-audit ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
* Re: No more report of quantity of rules successfully loaded 2023-05-24 14:42 ` Steve Grubb @ 2023-05-24 20:01 ` Richard Guy Briggs 2023-05-26 0:41 ` warron.french 0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread From: Richard Guy Briggs @ 2023-05-24 20:01 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Steve Grubb; +Cc: Linux Audit On 2023-05-24 10:42, Steve Grubb wrote: > Hello Warron, > > On Tuesday, May 23, 2023 7:12:07 PM EDT warron.french wrote: > > Hi, I am running auditd-3.0.7-4 on an Alma Linux v8.8. > > > > I know that for all of RHEL 6 and RHEL 7 variants that I worked with, to > > include CentOS (not Stream) that after I rebooted a server or restarted the > > auditd service (with -e 1 set) that I would 100% of the time get a report > > in /var/log/messages about the quantity of rules that successfully loaded. > > It has never done that unless someone else has a patch they did not send > upstream. > > > I could compare that to my unified rules file > > (/etc/audit/rules.d/Unified.rules - for a reference) and strip out the > > typical for auditd Control rules (-D, -e 1, -f 1, -b, -r, for examples) and > > then assess if I had the full set of files loaded or not. > > > > With this implementation of auditd, on version 3.0.7-4, I am not getting > > those results anymore. > > Am I looking in the wrong place, because for me this is important > > information? > > It has never done that. auditctl -D gives the output of auditctl -s as a > convenience. But auditctl -s has never reported how many rules are loaded. I > don't think the kernel has a counter. It has a variable for if any rules are > loaded, but not the quantity. Minor correction: there is a kernel variable (audit_n_rules) that counts the number of syscall rules in place, but it isn't reported directly outside the kernel. This feeds the boolean (struct audit_context)->dummy. > > Yes, I know that I can also manually execute "auditctl -l | wc -l" and get > > that information too, but I was wondering if this is planned or if I am > > looking in the wrong place, or what to do. > > It has never done that and is not planned. > > -Steve - RGB -- Richard Guy Briggs <rgb@redhat.com> Sr. S/W Engineer, Kernel Security, Base Operating Systems Remote, Ottawa, Red Hat Canada IRC: rgb, SunRaycer Voice: +1.647.777.2635, Internal: (81) 32635 -- Linux-audit mailing list Linux-audit@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-audit ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
* Re: No more report of quantity of rules successfully loaded 2023-05-24 20:01 ` Richard Guy Briggs @ 2023-05-26 0:41 ` warron.french 0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread From: warron.french @ 2023-05-26 0:41 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Richard Guy Briggs; +Cc: Linux Audit [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 3036 bytes --] Obviously both of you are correct. I am thinking about the number of rules that load when not all of the rules load. Specifically, it gives a line number of the last line that loaded from the rules. Which, for troubleshooting purposes, I always put into a single file and sort "alphabetically." Also, I solved my own problem on the ruleset in the single file I was working with on my VM. I had 220 lines of syntax, and many of the lines were auditd controls, because I do not know the exact term to label them; things like -D -b -e -f and so on. Thank you both, sorry for the disruption. -------------------------- Warron French On Wed, May 24, 2023 at 4:01 PM Richard Guy Briggs <rgb@redhat.com> wrote: > On 2023-05-24 10:42, Steve Grubb wrote: > > Hello Warron, > > > > On Tuesday, May 23, 2023 7:12:07 PM EDT warron.french wrote: > > > Hi, I am running auditd-3.0.7-4 on an Alma Linux v8.8. > > > > > > I know that for all of RHEL 6 and RHEL 7 variants that I worked with, > to > > > include CentOS (not Stream) that after I rebooted a server or > restarted the > > > auditd service (with -e 1 set) that I would 100% of the time get a > report > > > in /var/log/messages about the quantity of rules that successfully > loaded. > > > > It has never done that unless someone else has a patch they did not send > > upstream. > > > > > I could compare that to my unified rules file > > > (/etc/audit/rules.d/Unified.rules - for a reference) and strip out the > > > typical for auditd Control rules (-D, -e 1, -f 1, -b, -r, for > examples) and > > > then assess if I had the full set of files loaded or not. > > > > > > With this implementation of auditd, on version 3.0.7-4, I am not > getting > > > those results anymore. > > > Am I looking in the wrong place, because for me this is important > > > information? > > > > It has never done that. auditctl -D gives the output of auditctl -s as a > > convenience. But auditctl -s has never reported how many rules are > loaded. I > > don't think the kernel has a counter. It has a variable for if any rules > are > > loaded, but not the quantity. > > Minor correction: there is a kernel variable (audit_n_rules) that counts > the number of syscall rules in place, but it isn't reported directly > outside the kernel. This feeds the boolean (struct > audit_context)->dummy. > > > > Yes, I know that I can also manually execute "auditctl -l | wc -l" > and get > > > that information too, but I was wondering if this is planned or if I > am > > > looking in the wrong place, or what to do. > > > > It has never done that and is not planned. > > > > -Steve > > - RGB > > -- > Richard Guy Briggs <rgb@redhat.com> > Sr. S/W Engineer, Kernel Security, Base Operating Systems > Remote, Ottawa, Red Hat Canada > IRC: rgb, SunRaycer > Voice: +1.647.777.2635, Internal: (81) 32635 > -- > Linux-audit mailing list > Linux-audit@redhat.com > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-audit > > [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 4090 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 107 bytes --] -- Linux-audit mailing list Linux-audit@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-audit ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
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