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From: Gabriel Krisman Bertazi <krisman@collabora.com>
To: lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org
Cc: linux-block@vger.kernel.org
Subject: [LSF/MM/BPF TOPIC] block drivers in user space
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2022 14:59:48 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87tucsf0sr.fsf@collabora.com> (raw)

I'd like to discuss an interface to implement user space block devices,
while avoiding local network NBD solutions.  There has been reiterated
interest in the topic, both from researchers [1] and from the community,
including a proposed session in LSFMM2018 [2] (though I don't think it
happened).

I've been working on top of the Google iblock implementation to find
something upstreamable and would like to present my design and gather
feedback on some points, in particular zero-copy and overall user space
interface.

The design I'm pending towards uses special fds opened by the driver to
transfer data to/from the block driver, preferably through direct
splicing as much as possible, to keep data only in kernel space.  This
is because, in my use case, the driver usually only manipulates
metadata, while data is forwarded directly through the network, or
similar. It would be neat if we can leverage the existing
splice/copy_file_range syscalls such that we don't ever need to bring
disk data to user space, if we can avoid it.  I've also experimented
with regular pipes, But I found no way around keeping a lot of pipes
opened, one for each possible command 'slot'.

[1] https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/3456727.3463768
[2] https://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-fsdevel/msg120674.html

-- 
Gabriel Krisman Bertazi

             reply	other threads:[~2022-02-21 19:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-21 19:59 Gabriel Krisman Bertazi [this message]
2022-02-21 23:16 ` [LSF/MM/BPF TOPIC] block drivers in user space Damien Le Moal
2022-02-21 23:30   ` Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2022-02-22  6:57 ` Hannes Reinecke
2022-02-22 14:46   ` Sagi Grimberg
2022-02-22 17:46     ` Hannes Reinecke
2022-02-22 18:05     ` Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2022-02-24  9:37       ` Xiaoguang Wang
2022-02-24 10:12       ` Sagi Grimberg
2022-03-01 23:24         ` Khazhy Kumykov
2022-03-02 16:16         ` Mike Christie
2022-03-13 21:15           ` Sagi Grimberg
2022-03-14 17:12             ` Mike Christie
2022-03-15  8:03               ` Sagi Grimberg
2022-03-14 19:21             ` Bart Van Assche
2022-03-15  6:52               ` Hannes Reinecke
2022-03-15  8:08                 ` Sagi Grimberg
2022-03-15  8:12                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-15  8:38                     ` Sagi Grimberg
2022-03-15  8:42                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-23 19:42                       ` Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2022-03-24 17:05                         ` Sagi Grimberg
2022-03-15  8:04               ` Sagi Grimberg
2022-02-22 18:05   ` Bart Van Assche
2022-03-02 23:04   ` Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2022-03-03  7:17     ` Hannes Reinecke
2022-03-27 16:35   ` Ming Lei
2022-03-28  5:47     ` Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-28  5:48     ` Hannes Reinecke
2022-03-28 20:20     ` Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2022-03-29  0:30       ` Ming Lei
2022-03-29 17:20         ` Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2022-03-30  1:55           ` Ming Lei
2022-03-30 18:22             ` Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2022-03-31  1:38               ` Ming Lei
2022-03-31  3:49                 ` Bart Van Assche
2022-04-08  6:52     ` Xiaoguang Wang
2022-04-08  7:44       ` Ming Lei
2022-02-23  5:57 ` Gao Xiang
2022-02-23  7:46   ` Damien Le Moal
2022-02-23  8:11     ` Gao Xiang
2022-02-23 22:40       ` Damien Le Moal
2022-02-24  0:58         ` Gao Xiang
2022-06-09  2:01           ` Ming Lei
2022-06-09  2:28             ` Gao Xiang
2022-06-09  4:06               ` Ming Lei
2022-06-09  4:55                 ` Gao Xiang
2022-06-10  1:52                   ` Ming Lei
2022-07-28  8:23                 ` Pavel Machek
2022-03-02 16:52 ` Mike Christie
2022-03-03  7:09   ` Hannes Reinecke
2022-03-14 17:04     ` Mike Christie
2022-03-15  6:45       ` Hannes Reinecke
2022-03-05  7:29 ` Dongsheng Yang

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