From: Sagi Grimberg <sagi@grimberg.me>
To: Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@acm.org>,
Mike Christie <michael.christie@oracle.com>,
Gabriel Krisman Bertazi <krisman@collabora.com>
Cc: Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>,
lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [LSF/MM/BPF TOPIC] block drivers in user space
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2022 10:04:49 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <c6d862ce-9f3d-d89f-dee5-fd40b096dbf2@grimberg.me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0b85385b-e8cf-2ab3-ce22-c63d4346cc16@acm.org>
>> So I hear there is a desire to do this. So I think we should list the
>> use-cases for this first because that would lead to different design
>> choices.. For example one use-case is just to send read/write/flush
>> to userspace, another may want to passthru nvme commands to userspace
>> and there may be others...
>
> (resending my reply without truncating the Cc-list)
>
> Hi Sagi,
>
> Haven't these use cases already been mentioned in the email at the start
> of this thread? The use cases I am aware of are implementing
> cloud-specific block storage functionality and also block storage in
> user space for Android. Having to parse NVMe commands and PRP or SGL
> lists would be an unnecessary source of complexity and overhead for
> these use cases. My understanding is that what is needed for these use
> cases is something that is close to the block layer request interface
> (REQ_OP_* + request flags + data buffer).
pasting my response here as well:
Well, I can absolutely think of a use-case that will want raw nvme
commands and leverage vendor specific opcodes for applications like
computational storage or what not...
I would say that all the complexity of handling nvme commands in
userspace would be handle in a properly layered core stack with
pluggable backends that can see a simplified interface if they want, or
see a full passthru command.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-03-15 8:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-02-21 19:59 [LSF/MM/BPF TOPIC] block drivers in user space Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2022-02-21 23:16 ` Damien Le Moal
2022-02-21 23:30 ` Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2022-02-22 6:57 ` Hannes Reinecke
2022-02-22 14:46 ` Sagi Grimberg
2022-02-22 17:46 ` Hannes Reinecke
2022-02-22 18:05 ` Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2022-02-24 9:37 ` Xiaoguang Wang
2022-02-24 10:12 ` Sagi Grimberg
2022-03-01 23:24 ` Khazhy Kumykov
2022-03-02 16:16 ` Mike Christie
2022-03-13 21:15 ` Sagi Grimberg
2022-03-14 17:12 ` Mike Christie
2022-03-15 8:03 ` Sagi Grimberg
2022-03-14 19:21 ` Bart Van Assche
2022-03-15 6:52 ` Hannes Reinecke
2022-03-15 8:08 ` Sagi Grimberg
2022-03-15 8:12 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-15 8:38 ` Sagi Grimberg
2022-03-15 8:42 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-23 19:42 ` Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2022-03-24 17:05 ` Sagi Grimberg
2022-03-15 8:04 ` Sagi Grimberg [this message]
2022-02-22 18:05 ` Bart Van Assche
2022-03-02 23:04 ` Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2022-03-03 7:17 ` Hannes Reinecke
2022-03-27 16:35 ` Ming Lei
2022-03-28 5:47 ` Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-28 5:48 ` Hannes Reinecke
2022-03-28 20:20 ` Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2022-03-29 0:30 ` Ming Lei
2022-03-29 17:20 ` Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2022-03-30 1:55 ` Ming Lei
2022-03-30 18:22 ` Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2022-03-31 1:38 ` Ming Lei
2022-03-31 3:49 ` Bart Van Assche
2022-04-08 6:52 ` Xiaoguang Wang
2022-04-08 7:44 ` Ming Lei
2022-02-23 5:57 ` Gao Xiang
2022-02-23 7:46 ` Damien Le Moal
2022-02-23 8:11 ` Gao Xiang
2022-02-23 22:40 ` Damien Le Moal
2022-02-24 0:58 ` Gao Xiang
2022-06-09 2:01 ` Ming Lei
2022-06-09 2:28 ` Gao Xiang
2022-06-09 4:06 ` Ming Lei
2022-06-09 4:55 ` Gao Xiang
2022-06-10 1:52 ` Ming Lei
2022-07-28 8:23 ` Pavel Machek
2022-03-02 16:52 ` Mike Christie
2022-03-03 7:09 ` Hannes Reinecke
2022-03-14 17:04 ` Mike Christie
2022-03-15 6:45 ` Hannes Reinecke
2022-03-05 7:29 ` Dongsheng Yang
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