From: Damien Le Moal <Damien.LeMoal@wdc.com>
To: "Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
"linux-block@vger.kernel.org" <linux-block@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org" <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 0/5] Initial support for multi-actuator HDDs
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2021 02:45:54 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <DM6PR04MB708192A9DAE8BDC018B30420E7FF9@DM6PR04MB7081.namprd04.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: yq1fsv7mrrf.fsf@ca-mkp.ca.oracle.com
On 2021/08/18 11:24, Martin K. Petersen wrote:
>
> Damien,
>
>> With the single LUN approach, the fault domain does not really change
>> from a regular device. The typical use in case of bad heads would be
>> to replace the drive or reformat it at lower capacity with head
>> depop. That could be avoided with dm-linear on top (one DM per
>> actuator) though.
>
> I was more thinking along the lines of btrfs making sure to place
> dup metadata on different actuators or similar.
>
>> The above point led me to this informational only implementation.
>> Without optimization, we get the same as today. No changes in
>> performance and use. Better IOPS is gain for lucky workloads
>> (typically random ones). Going forward, more reliable IOPS &
>> throughput gains are possible with some additional changes.
>
> Sure, but that means the ranges need to affect both I/O scheduling and
> data placement. We need to make sure that the data placement interface
> semantics are applicable to other types of media than multi actuator
> drives. Filesystems shouldn't have to look at different queue limits if
> they sit on top of dm-linear instead of sd. From an I/O scheduling
> perspective I concur that device implementation details are pertinent.
Currently, FSes cannot know the dm-linear config. The queue crange interface can
actually unify this for split/dual actuator and dm-linear like logical disks.
I need to send patches to dm-devel for that though as currently, dm-linear does
not expose its config as cranges. If I recall correctly, Hannes was also
interested in playing with that too :)
--
Damien Le Moal
Western Digital Research
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-08-18 2:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-08-12 7:50 [PATCH v5 0/5] Initial support for multi-actuator HDDs Damien Le Moal
2021-08-12 7:50 ` [PATCH v5 1/5] block: Add concurrent positioning ranges support Damien Le Moal
2021-08-12 7:50 ` [PATCH v5 2/5] scsi: sd: add " Damien Le Moal
2021-08-12 7:50 ` [PATCH v5 3/5] libata: support concurrent positioning ranges log Damien Le Moal
2021-08-12 7:50 ` [PATCH v5 4/5] doc: document sysfs queue/cranges attributes Damien Le Moal
2021-08-12 7:50 ` [PATCH v5 5/5] doc: Fix typo in request queue sysfs documentation Damien Le Moal
2021-08-12 17:10 ` [PATCH v5 0/5] Initial support for multi-actuator HDDs Jens Axboe
2021-08-12 17:21 ` Martin K. Petersen
2021-08-12 17:25 ` Jens Axboe
2021-08-13 0:30 ` Damien Le Moal
2021-08-16 17:12 ` Martin K. Petersen
2021-08-17 4:06 ` Damien Le Moal
2021-08-16 17:10 ` Martin K. Petersen
2021-08-17 4:06 ` Damien Le Moal
2021-08-18 2:24 ` Martin K. Petersen
2021-08-18 2:45 ` Damien Le Moal [this message]
2021-08-23 1:27 ` Damien Le Moal
2021-08-26 2:07 ` Damien Le Moal
2021-08-26 2:41 ` Martin K. Petersen
2021-08-26 3:09 ` Damien Le Moal
2021-08-26 3:43 ` Martin K. Petersen
2021-08-26 3:50 ` Damien Le Moal
2021-08-26 6:28 ` Hannes Reinecke
2021-08-27 3:03 ` Martin K. Petersen
2021-08-27 3:11 ` Damien Le Moal
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