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From: Vincent MAILHOL <mailhol.vincent@wanadoo.fr>
To: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
Cc: Marc Kleine-Budde <mkl@pengutronix.de>,
	linux-can@vger.kernel.org,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Max Staudt <max@enpas.org>,
	Oliver Hartkopp <socketcan@hartkopp.net>,
	netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 4/7] can: Kconfig: add CONFIG_CAN_RX_OFFLOAD
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2022 18:27:55 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMZ6RqLEEHOZjrMH+-GLC--jjfOaWYOPLf+PpefHwy=cLpWTYg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMuHMdXkq7+yvD=ju-LY14yOPkiiHwL6H+9G-4KgX=GJjX=h9g@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Geert,

On Tue. 7 Jun 2022 at 17:43, Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org> wrote:
> Hi Vincent,
>
> On Sun, Jun 5, 2022 at 12:25 AM Vincent Mailhol
> <mailhol.vincent@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
> > Only a few drivers rely on the CAN rx offload framework (as of the
> > writing of this patch, only four: flexcan, m_can, mcp251xfd and
> > ti_hecc). Give the option to the user to deselect this features during
> > compilation.
>
> Thanks for your patch!

Thank you too, happy to see the warm feedback from all of you.

> > The drivers relying on CAN rx offload are in different sub
> > folders. All of these drivers get tagged with "select CAN_RX_OFFLOAD"
> > so that the option is automatically enabled whenever one of those
> > driver is chosen.

The "select CAN_RX_OFFLOAD" is to make it dummy proof for the user who
will deselect CAN_RX_OFFLOAD can still see the menu entries for all
drivers. I think it is better than a "depends on" which would hide the
rx offload devices.

> Great! But...
>
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Vincent Mailhol <mailhol.vincent@wanadoo.fr>
>
> > --- a/drivers/net/can/Kconfig
> > +++ b/drivers/net/can/Kconfig
> > @@ -102,6 +102,20 @@ config CAN_CALC_BITTIMING
> >
> >           If unsure, say Y.
> >
> > +config CAN_RX_OFFLOAD
> > +       bool "CAN RX offload"
> > +       default y
>
> ... then why does this default to "y"?
>
> > +       help
> > +         Framework to offload the controller's RX FIFO during one
> > +         interrupt. The CAN frames of the FIFO are read and put into a skb
> > +         queue during that interrupt and transmitted afterwards in a NAPI
> > +         context.
> > +
> > +         The additional features selected by this option will be added to the
> > +         can-dev module.
> > +
> > +         If unsure, say Y.
>
> ... and do you suggest to enable this?

Several reasons. First, *before* this series, the help menu for
"Platform CAN drivers with Netlink support" (old CAN_DEV) had the
"default y" and said: "if unsure, say Y." CAN_RX_OFFLOAD was part of
it so, I am just maintaining the status quo.

Second, and regardless of the above, I really think that it makes
sense to have everything built in can-dev.ko by default. If someone
does a binary release of can-dev.ko in which the rx offload is
deactivated, end users would get really confused.

Having a can-dev module stripped down is an expert setting. The
average user which does not need CAN can deselect CONFIG_CAN and be
happy. The average hobbyist who wants to do some CAN hacking will
activate CONFIG_CAN and will automatically have the prerequisites in
can-dev for any type of device drivers (after that just need to select
the actual device drivers). The advanced user who actually read all
the help menus will know that he should rather keep those to "yes"
throughout the "if unsure, say Y" comment. Finally, the experts can
fine tune their configuration by deselecting the pieces they did not
wish for.

Honestly, I am totally happy to have the "default y" tag, the "if
unsure, say Y" comment and the "select CAN_RX_OFFLOAD" all together.

Unless I am violating some kind of best practices, I prefer to keep it
as-is. Hope this makes sense.


Yours sincerely,
Vincent Mailhol

  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-07  9:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 119+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-13 14:23 [PATCH 0/2] can: drop tx skb if the device is in listen only mode Vincent Mailhol
2022-05-13 14:23 ` [PATCH 1/2] can: move can_dropped_invalid_skb from skb.h to dev.h Vincent Mailhol
2022-05-13 14:23 ` [PATCH 2/2] can: dev: drop tx skb if in listen only mode Vincent Mailhol
2022-05-13 14:42 ` [PATCH 0/2] can: drop tx skb if the device is " Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-05-13 15:20   ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-05-13 15:36 ` [PATCH v2 " Vincent Mailhol
2022-05-13 15:36   ` [PATCH v2 1/2] can: skb:: move can_dropped_invalid_skb and can_skb_headroom_valid to skb.c Vincent Mailhol
2022-05-14  4:20     ` kernel test robot
2022-05-14  5:16       ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-05-14 11:17         ` Max Staudt
2022-05-13 15:36   ` [PATCH v2 2/2] can: dev: drop tx skb if in listen only mode Vincent Mailhol
2022-05-13 17:40   ` [PATCH v2 0/2] can: drop tx skb if the device is " Max Staudt
2022-05-14  3:00     ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-05-14 14:16 ` [PATCH v3 0/4] can: can_dropped_invalid_skb() and Kbuild changes Vincent Mailhol
2022-05-14 14:16   ` [PATCH v3 1/4] can: slcan: use can_dropped_invalid_skb() instead of manual check Vincent Mailhol
2022-05-16 20:40     ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-05-14 14:16   ` [PATCH v3 2/4] can: Kconfig: change CAN_DEV into a menuconfig Vincent Mailhol
2022-05-14 14:16   ` [PATCH v3 3/4] can: skb:: move can_dropped_invalid_skb and can_skb_headroom_valid to skb.c Vincent Mailhol
2022-05-15 19:17     ` Oliver Hartkopp
2022-05-17  1:50       ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-05-17  4:12         ` Max Staudt
2022-05-17  6:08         ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-05-17  7:04           ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-05-17 10:45             ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-05-17 11:51               ` Oliver Hartkopp
2022-05-17 12:14                 ` Max Staudt
2022-05-17 12:21                   ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-05-17 12:39                     ` Max Staudt
2022-05-17 13:35                       ` Oliver Hartkopp
2022-05-17 13:43                         ` Max Staudt
2022-05-17 14:23                           ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-05-17 14:35                           ` Oliver Hartkopp
2022-05-17 15:38                             ` Max Staudt
2022-05-17 15:50                               ` Oliver Hartkopp
2022-05-17 17:52                                 ` Max Staudt
2022-05-18 12:03                         ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-05-18 12:12                           ` Device Drivers: (was: Re: [PATCH v3 3/4] can: skb:: move can_dropped_invalid_skb and can_skb_headroom_valid to skb.c) Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-05-18 12:45                             ` Oliver Hartkopp
2022-05-18 13:10                           ` [PATCH v3 3/4] can: skb:: move can_dropped_invalid_skb and can_skb_headroom_valid to skb.c Oliver Hartkopp
2022-05-18 13:28                             ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-05-18 14:07                               ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-05-18 14:33                                 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2022-05-18 14:36                                   ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-05-18 14:38                                     ` Oliver Hartkopp
2022-05-18 14:55                                       ` Oliver Hartkopp
2022-05-18 15:38                                         ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-05-18 15:48                                           ` Max Staudt
2022-05-18 16:01                                             ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-05-14 14:16   ` [PATCH v3 4/4] can: dev: drop tx skb if in listen only mode Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-03 10:28 ` [PATCH v4 0/7] can: refactoring of can-dev module and of Kbuild Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-03 10:28   ` [PATCH v4 1/7] can: Kbuild: rename config symbol CAN_DEV into CAN_NETLINK Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-03 10:28   ` [PATCH v4 2/7] can: Kconfig: turn menu "CAN Device Drivers" into a menuconfig using CAN_DEV Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-04 11:27     ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-06-04 12:30       ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-06-04 12:43         ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-06-04 13:46     ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-06-03 10:28   ` [PATCH v4 3/7] can: bittiming: move bittiming calculation functions to calc_bittiming.c Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-04 11:25     ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-06-04 12:21       ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-06-04 12:41         ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-06-04 12:56           ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-06-04 13:51             ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-06-03 10:28   ` [PATCH v4 4/7] can: Kconfig: add CONFIG_CAN_RX_OFFLOAD Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-04 11:22     ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-06-04 12:14       ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-06-03 10:28   ` [PATCH v4 5/7] net: Kconfig: move the CAN device menu to the "Device Drivers" section Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-03 10:28   ` [PATCH v4 6/7] can: skb: move can_dropped_invalid_skb() and can_skb_headroom_valid() to skb.c Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-03 10:28   ` [PATCH v4 7/7] can: skb: drop tx skb if in listen only mode Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-04 11:46   ` [PATCH v4 0/7] can: refactoring of can-dev module and of Kbuild Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-06-04 13:05     ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-06-04 13:55       ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-06-04 14:59         ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-06-04 15:18           ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-06-04 16:32             ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-06-05 10:39               ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-06-05 13:57                 ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-06-05 18:08                   ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-06-04 16:29 ` [PATCH v5 " Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-04 16:29   ` [PATCH v5 1/7] can: Kbuild: rename config symbol CAN_DEV into CAN_NETLINK Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-04 16:29   ` [PATCH v5 2/7] can: Kconfig: turn menu "CAN Device Drivers" into a menuconfig using CAN_DEV Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-04 16:29   ` [PATCH v5 3/7] can: bittiming: move bittiming calculation functions to calc_bittiming.c Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-04 16:29   ` [PATCH v5 4/7] can: Kconfig: add CONFIG_CAN_RX_OFFLOAD Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-07  8:43     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-06-07  9:27       ` Vincent MAILHOL [this message]
2022-06-07 16:22         ` Max Staudt
2022-06-07 22:06           ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-06-07 23:40             ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-06-08  0:07               ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-06-07 23:43             ` Max Staudt
2022-06-08  0:14               ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-06-08  0:22                 ` Max Staudt
2022-06-08  1:38                 ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-06-04 16:29   ` [PATCH v5 5/7] net: Kconfig: move the CAN device menu to the "Device Drivers" section Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-04 16:29   ` [PATCH v5 6/7] can: skb: move can_dropped_invalid_skb() and can_skb_headroom_valid() to skb.c Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-04 16:30   ` [PATCH v5 7/7] can: skb: drop tx skb if in listen only mode Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-05 17:23   ` [PATCH v5 0/7] can: refactoring of can-dev module and of Kbuild Max Staudt
2022-06-05 18:06     ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-06-05 20:46       ` Max Staudt
2022-06-06  0:24         ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-06-06 19:24   ` Oliver Hartkopp
2022-06-07  2:49     ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-06-07  7:13       ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-06-07  8:49         ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-06-07 20:12       ` Oliver Hartkopp
2022-06-07 20:27         ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-06-07 20:51           ` Oliver Hartkopp
2022-06-07 23:59             ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-06-08 20:10               ` Oliver Hartkopp
2022-06-10 14:30 ` [PATCH v6 " Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-10 14:30   ` [PATCH v6 1/7] can: Kconfig: rename config symbol CAN_DEV into CAN_NETLINK Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-10 14:30   ` [PATCH v6 2/7] can: Kconfig: turn menu "CAN Device Drivers" into a menuconfig using CAN_DEV Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-10 14:30   ` [PATCH v6 3/7] can: bittiming: move bittiming calculation functions to calc_bittiming.c Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-10 14:30   ` [PATCH v6 4/7] can: Kconfig: add CONFIG_CAN_RX_OFFLOAD Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-10 14:30   ` [PATCH v6 5/7] net: Kconfig: move the CAN device menu to the "Device Drivers" section Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-10 14:30   ` [PATCH v6 6/7] can: skb: move can_dropped_invalid_skb() and can_skb_headroom_valid() to skb.c Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-10 14:30   ` [PATCH v6 7/7] can: skb: drop tx skb if in listen only mode Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-10 21:38   ` [PATCH v6 0/7] can: refactoring of can-dev module and of Kbuild Oliver Hartkopp
2022-06-10 22:43   ` Max Staudt
2022-06-11 15:17   ` Marc Kleine-Budde

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