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From: "Stephan Müller" <smueller@chronox.de>
To: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Cc: linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/13] crypto: copy AAD during encrypt for AEAD ciphers
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 17:37:33 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3463059.TVfkfLOfNf@tauon.atsec.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170112160629.GA19577@gondor.apana.org.au>

Am Freitag, 13. Januar 2017, 00:06:29 CET schrieb Herbert Xu:

Hi Herbert,

> On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 05:01:13PM +0100, Stephan Müller wrote:
> > I fully agree. Therefore, I was under the impression that disregarding the
> > AAD in recvmsg entirely would be most appropriate as offered with the
> > patch "crypto: AF_ALG - disregard AAD buffer space for output". In this
> > case we would be fully POSIX compliant, the kernel would not copy the AAD
> > (and thus perform multiple memcpy operations due to copy_from_user and
> > copy_to_user round trips) and leave the AAD copy operation entirely to
> > user space.
> Yes but then you'd have to play nasty games to fit this through
> the kernel API. 

I would not understand that statement.

With the patch mentioned above that I provided some weeks ago, we have the 
following scenario for an encryption (in case of decryption, it is almost 
identical, just the tag location is reversed):

user calls sendmsg with data buffer/IOVEC: AAD || PT
	-> algif_aead turns this into the src SGL

user calls recvmsg with data buffer/IOVEC: CT || Tag
	-> algif_aead creates the first SG entry in the dst SGL pointing to the 
AAD from the src SGL
	-> algif_aead appends the user buffers to the dst SGL

	-> algif_aead performs its operation and during that operation, only the 
CT and Tag parts are changed

I.e. with the pre-pending of the SG pointing to the AAD from the src SGL to 
the dst SGL we have a clean invocation of the kernel API.

Yet, we avoid copy round trips of the AAD from src to dst in the kernel.

> Besides, we could still do in-place crypto even
> though you suggested that it's complicated.

Is that crypto-in-place operation really a goal we want to achieve if we "buy" 
it with a memcpy of the data from the src SGL to the dst SGL before the crypto 
operation?

Can we really call such implementation a crypto-in-place operation?

> It's not really.

I concur, for encryption the suggested memcpy is not difficult. Only for 
decryption, the memcpy is more challenging.

> All we have to do is walk through the SG list and compare each
> page/offset.  For the common case it's going to be a single-entry
> list.
> 
> Cheers,



Ciao
Stephan

  reply	other threads:[~2017-01-12 16:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-10  1:36 [PATCH 00/13] crypto: copy AAD during encrypt for AEAD ciphers Stephan Müller
2017-01-10  1:36 ` [PATCH 01/13] crypto: service function to copy AAD from src to dst Stephan Müller
2017-01-10  1:37 ` [PATCH 02/13] crypto: gcm_generic - copy AAD during encryption Stephan Müller
2017-01-10  1:37 ` [PATCH 03/13] crypto: ccm_generic " Stephan Müller
2017-01-10  1:37 ` [PATCH 04/13] crypto: rfc4106-gcm-aesni " Stephan Müller
2017-01-10  1:38 ` [PATCH 05/13] crypto: ccm-aes-ce " Stephan Müller
2017-01-10  1:38 ` [PATCH 06/13] crypto: talitos " Stephan Müller
2017-01-10  1:38 ` [PATCH 07/13] crypto: picoxcell " Stephan Müller
2017-01-10  1:39 ` [PATCH 08/13] crypto: ixp4xx " Stephan Müller
2017-01-10  1:39 ` [PATCH 09/13] crypto: atmel " Stephan Müller
2017-01-10  1:39 ` [PATCH 10/13] crypto: caam " Stephan Müller
2017-01-10  1:40 ` [PATCH 11/13] crypto: chelsio " Stephan Müller
2017-01-10  1:40 ` [PATCH 12/13] crypto: nx " Stephan Müller
2017-01-10  1:41 ` [PATCH 13/13] crypto: qat " Stephan Müller
2017-01-12  6:19 ` [PATCH 00/13] crypto: copy AAD during encrypt for AEAD ciphers Herbert Xu
2017-01-12 11:22   ` Stephan Müller
2017-01-12 14:57     ` Herbert Xu
2017-01-12 15:23       ` Stephan Müller
2017-01-12 15:27         ` Herbert Xu
2017-01-12 15:34           ` Stephan Müller
2017-01-12 15:39             ` Herbert Xu
2017-01-12 15:50               ` Stephan Müller
2017-01-12 15:53                 ` Herbert Xu
2017-01-12 16:01                   ` Stephan Müller
2017-01-12 16:06                     ` Herbert Xu
2017-01-12 16:37                       ` Stephan Müller [this message]
2017-01-13 10:23                         ` Herbert Xu
2017-01-13 10:58                           ` Stephan Müller
2017-01-13 11:04                             ` Herbert Xu
2017-01-13 11:12                               ` Stephan Müller
2017-01-13 11:14                                 ` Herbert Xu
2017-01-13 11:19                                   ` Stephan Müller
2017-01-13 11:26                                     ` Herbert Xu
2017-01-13 11:30                                       ` Stephan Müller
2017-01-13 11:33                                         ` Herbert Xu
2017-01-13 11:36                                           ` Stephan Müller
2017-01-13 11:39                                             ` Herbert Xu
2017-01-20 17:07                                               ` Cyrille Pitchen
2017-01-20 20:28                                                 ` Stephan Müller
2017-01-23 13:10                                                 ` Herbert Xu
2017-01-12 12:43   ` Stephan Müller
2017-01-18 14:57 ` Cyrille Pitchen

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