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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Crypto Mailing List <linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: x86-64: Maintain 16-byte stack alignment
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 20:17:17 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+55aFzypqpMog8aTczWYok0MqOcMi4gGzCor6k-NdJzBoLWyQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFxJOzMim_d-O2E2yip8JWo0NdYs_72sNwFKSkTjy8q0Sw@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 7:30 PM, Linus Torvalds
<torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>
> If you really want more stack alignment, you have to generate that
> alignment yourself by hand (and have a bigger buffer that you do that
> alignment inside).

Side note: gcc can (and does) actually generate forced alignment using
"and" instructions on %rsp rather than assuming pre-existing
alignment.  And that would be valid.

The problem with "alignof(16)" is not that gcc couldn't generate the
alignment itself, it's just the broken "it's already aligned to 16
bytes" assumption because -mpreferred-stack-boundary=3 doesn't work.

You *could* try to hack around it by forcing a 32-byte alignment
instead. That (I think) will make gcc generate the "and" instruction
mess.

And it shouldn't actually use any more memory than doing it by hand
(by having twice the alignment and hand-aligning the pointer).

So we *could* try to just have a really hacky rule saying that you can
align stack data to 8 or 32 bytes, but *not* to 16 bytes.

That said, I do think that the "don't assume stack alignment, do it by
hand" may be the safer thing. Because who knows what the random rules
will be on other architectures.

               Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2017-01-11  4:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-10 14:33 x86-64: Maintain 16-byte stack alignment Herbert Xu
2017-01-10 14:39 ` Herbert Xu
2017-01-10 17:05   ` Linus Torvalds
2017-01-10 17:09     ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-01-11  3:11     ` Herbert Xu
2017-01-11  3:30       ` Linus Torvalds
2017-01-11  4:17         ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2017-01-11  4:35           ` Herbert Xu
2017-01-11  6:01             ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-01-12  6:21               ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-01-12  7:40                 ` Ingo Molnar
2017-01-12 14:02                 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-01-12 19:51                   ` Linus Torvalds
2017-01-12 20:08                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-01-12 20:15                       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-01-12 20:55                         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-01-12 21:40                           ` Linus Torvalds
2017-01-13  8:38                             ` Herbert Xu
2017-01-13  1:46                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-01-13  3:11                           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-01-13  3:23                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-01-13  4:27                               ` Josh Poimboeuf
     [not found]                                 ` <CA+55aFzRrSwGxxfZk-RUEnsz=xhcSmOwE1CenfCPBWtsS9MwDw@mail.gmail.com>
2017-01-13  5:07                                   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-01-13  8:43                                     ` Herbert Xu
2017-01-13  8:42                                   ` Herbert Xu
2017-01-13  8:39                           ` Herbert Xu
2017-01-13  8:36                       ` Herbert Xu
2017-01-13 13:07                         ` Josh Poimboeuf
     [not found]             ` <CA+55aFw+Z_ieo6DzTVB6_-TvQ0jj60s=T0mvXfqkBVFdKFPw_Q@mail.gmail.com>
2017-01-11  8:06               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-01-11  8:09                 ` Herbert Xu
2017-01-11 18:20                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-01-12  7:05     ` Herbert Xu
2017-01-12  7:46       ` Ingo Molnar
2017-01-12 14:49         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-01-12  7:51       ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-01-12  8:04         ` Herbert Xu
2017-01-12  8:18           ` Ingo Molnar
2017-01-12 15:03         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-01-12 15:06           ` Herbert Xu
2017-01-12 15:18             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-01-12 15:10           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-01-10 17:30 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-01-10 19:00   ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-01-10 19:16     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-01-10 19:22       ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-01-10 20:00         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-01-10 23:25           ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-01-11  3:26             ` Herbert Xu
2017-01-11  3:26         ` Herbert Xu
2017-01-11  3:16     ` Herbert Xu
2017-01-11  3:15   ` Herbert Xu
2017-01-12  6:12   ` Herbert Xu
2017-01-12  8:01     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-01-12  8:06       ` Herbert Xu

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