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From: Jeffrey Vander Stoep <jeffv@google.com>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
Cc: Lokesh Gidra <lokeshgidra@google.com>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Daniel Colascione <dancol@google.com>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
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	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Tim Murray <timmurray@google.com>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan@google.com>,
	Sandeep Patil <sspatil@google.com>,
	kernel@android.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] Add a new sysctl knob: unprivileged_userfaultfd_user_mode_only
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2020 14:57:13 +0200
Message-ID: <CABXk95A-E4NYqA5qVrPgDF18YW-z4_udzLwa0cdo2OfqVsy=SQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200520211634.GL26186@redhat.com>

On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 11:17 PM Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 01:17:20PM -0700, Lokesh Gidra wrote:
> > Adding the Android kernel team in the discussion.
>
> Unless I'm mistaken that you can already enforce bit 1 of the second
> parameter of the userfaultfd syscall to be set with seccomp-bpf, this
> would be more a question to the Android userland team.
>
> The question would be: does it ever happen that a seccomp filter isn't
> already applied to unprivileged software running without
> SYS_CAP_PTRACE capability?

Yes.

Android uses selinux as our primary sandboxing mechanism. We do use
seccomp on a few processes, but we have found that it has a
surprisingly high performance cost [1] on arm64 devices so turning it
on system wide is not a good option.

[1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-security-module/202006011116.3F7109A@keescook/T/#m82ace19539ac595682affabdf652c0ffa5d27dad
>
>
> If answer is "no" the behavior of the new sysctl in patch 2/2 (in
> subject) should be enforceable with minor changes to the BPF
> assembly. Otherwise it'd require more changes.
>
> Thanks!
> Andrea
>

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Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-23  0:26 [PATCH 0/2] Control over userfaultfd kernel-fault handling Daniel Colascione
2020-04-23  0:26 ` [PATCH 1/2] Add UFFD_USER_MODE_ONLY Daniel Colascione
2020-07-24 14:28   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-07-24 14:46     ` Lokesh Gidra
2020-07-26 10:09       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-04-23  0:26 ` [PATCH 2/2] Add a new sysctl knob: unprivileged_userfaultfd_user_mode_only Daniel Colascione
2020-05-06 19:38   ` Peter Xu
2020-05-07 19:15     ` Jonathan Corbet
2020-05-20  4:06       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-05-08 16:52   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-05-08 16:54     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-05-20  4:59       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-05-20 18:03         ` Kees Cook
2020-05-20 19:48           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-05-20 19:51             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-05-20 20:17               ` Lokesh Gidra
2020-05-20 21:16                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-07-17 12:57                   ` Jeffrey Vander Stoep [this message]
2020-07-23 17:30                     ` Lokesh Gidra
2020-07-24  0:13                       ` Nick Kralevich
2020-07-24 13:40                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-08-06  0:43                           ` Nick Kralevich
2020-08-06  5:44                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-08-17 22:11                               ` Lokesh Gidra
2020-09-04  3:34                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-09-05  0:36                                   ` Lokesh Gidra
2020-07-24 14:01 ` [PATCH 0/2] Control over userfaultfd kernel-fault handling Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-07-24 14:41   ` Lokesh Gidra

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