From: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: "Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Gao Xiang <hsiangkao@aol.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
Chao Yu <yuchao0@huawei.com>, Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
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devel <devel@driverdev.osuosl.org>,
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Darrick <darrick.wong@oracle.com>,
Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>,
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Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Jaegeuk Kim <jaegeuk@kernel.org>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Li Guifu <bluce.liguifu@huawei.com>,
Fang Wei <fangwei1@huawei.com>, Pavel Machek <pavel@denx.de>,
linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] erofs: move erofs out of staging
Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2019 09:16:38 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190818161638.GE1118@sol.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190818155812.GB13230@infradead.org>
On Sun, Aug 18, 2019 at 08:58:12AM -0700, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 18, 2019 at 11:11:54AM -0400, Theodore Y. Ts'o wrote:
> > Note that of the mainstream file systems, ext4 and xfs don't guarantee
> > that it's safe to blindly take maliciously provided file systems, such
> > as those provided by a untrusted container, and mount it on a file
> > system without problems. As I recall, one of the XFS developers
> > described file system fuzzing reports as a denial of service attack on
> > the developers.
>
> I think this greatly misrepresents the general attitute of the XFS
> developers. We take sanity checks for the modern v5 on disk format
> very series, and put a lot of effort into handling corrupted file
> systems as good as possible, although there are of course no guaranteeѕ.
>
> The quote that you've taken out of context is for the legacy v4 format
> that has no checksums and other integrity features.
Ted's observation was about maliciously-crafted filesystems, though, so
integrity-only features such as metadata checksums are irrelevant. Also the
filesystem version is irrelevant; anything accepted by the kernel code (even if
it's legacy/deprecated) is open attack surface.
I personally consider it *mandatory* that we deal with this stuff. But I can
understand that we don't do a good job at it, so we shouldn't hold a new
filesystem to an unfairly high standard relative to other filesystems...
- Eric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-08-18 16:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-08-17 8:23 [PATCH] erofs: move erofs out of staging Gao Xiang
2019-08-17 21:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2019-08-17 22:07 ` Gao Xiang
2019-08-17 23:25 ` Richard Weinberger
2019-08-17 23:38 ` Gao Xiang
2019-08-18 0:04 ` Gao Xiang
2019-08-18 0:52 ` Gao Xiang
2019-08-18 8:16 ` Richard Weinberger
2019-08-18 8:45 ` Gao Xiang
2019-08-18 9:03 ` Richard Weinberger
2019-08-18 9:09 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-08-18 9:21 ` Richard Weinberger
2019-08-18 10:12 ` Chao Yu
2019-08-18 15:11 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-08-18 15:58 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-08-18 16:16 ` Eric Biggers [this message]
2019-08-18 16:22 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-08-18 16:33 ` Gao Xiang
2019-08-18 17:29 ` Eric Biggers
2019-08-18 17:47 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-08-18 18:16 ` Gao Xiang
2019-08-18 20:14 ` Gao Xiang
2019-08-19 7:35 ` Richard Weinberger
2019-08-19 8:02 ` Gao Xiang
2019-08-19 10:34 ` [PATCH 0/6] staging: erofs: first stage of corrupted compressed images Gao Xiang
2019-08-19 10:34 ` [PATCH 1/6] staging: erofs: some compressed cluster should be submitted for corrupted images Gao Xiang
2019-08-19 14:36 ` Chao Yu
2019-08-19 14:39 ` Chao Yu
2019-08-19 10:34 ` [PATCH 2/6] staging: erofs: cannot set EROFS_V_Z_INITED_BIT if fill_inode_lazy fails Gao Xiang
2019-08-19 14:43 ` Chao Yu
2019-08-19 10:34 ` [PATCH 3/6] staging: erofs: add two missing erofs_workgroup_put for corrupted images Gao Xiang
2019-08-19 14:40 ` Chao Yu
2019-08-19 10:34 ` [PATCH 4/6] staging: erofs: avoid loop in submit chains Gao Xiang
2019-08-19 14:50 ` Chao Yu
2019-08-19 10:34 ` [PATCH 5/6] staging: erofs: detect potential multiref due to corrupted images Gao Xiang
2019-08-19 14:57 ` Chao Yu
2019-08-21 2:19 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-08-21 14:01 ` [PATCH v2 " Gao Xiang
2019-08-21 14:24 ` Chao Yu
2019-08-19 10:34 ` [PATCH 6/6] staging: erofs: avoid endless loop of invalid lookback distance 0 Gao Xiang
2019-08-19 14:58 ` Chao Yu
2019-08-19 16:09 ` [PATCH] erofs: move erofs out of staging Darrick J. Wong
2019-08-19 20:30 ` Gao Xiang
2019-08-20 0:55 ` Qu Wenruo
2019-08-20 1:55 ` Gao Xiang
2019-08-20 2:24 ` Chao Yu
2019-08-20 2:38 ` Qu Wenruo
2019-08-20 7:15 ` Chao Yu
2019-08-20 8:46 ` Qu Wenruo
2019-08-21 2:12 ` Chao Yu
2019-08-20 15:56 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-08-20 16:35 ` Gao Xiang
2019-08-21 0:51 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-08-21 1:34 ` Chao Yu
2019-08-21 1:48 ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-08-21 1:57 ` Chao Yu
2019-08-20 3:33 ` Miao Xie
2019-08-20 3:46 ` Gao Xiang
2019-08-20 6:04 ` Qu Wenruo
2019-08-20 6:22 ` Gao Xiang
2019-08-19 7:37 ` Richard Weinberger
2019-08-18 17:43 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-08-18 16:03 ` Gao Xiang
2019-08-18 17:06 ` Richard Weinberger
2019-08-18 17:46 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-08-18 18:00 ` Richard Weinberger
2019-08-18 18:31 ` Gao Xiang
2019-08-18 9:28 ` Gao Xiang
2019-08-19 5:28 ` [PATCH] erofs: Use common kernel logging style Joe Perches
2019-08-19 5:52 ` Gao Xiang
2019-08-19 5:47 ` Joe Perches
2019-08-19 6:08 ` Gao Xiang
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