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From: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
To: Masahiro Yamada <masahiroy@kernel.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Michal Marek <michal.lkml@markovi.net>,
	linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org,
	Linux Kbuild mailing list <linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Justin Forbes <jforbes@redhat.com>,
	Ondrej Mosnacek <omosnace@redhat.com>,
	Frank Eigler <fche@redhat.com>, Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] gcc-plugins: Handle GCC version mismatch for OOT modules
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2021 09:08:12 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210304150812.rzya7ewmerwhe4m4@treble> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAK7LNAQaAgg+mVSw_U3_FuuqcqJNnonyhVD1M-ezv71Y+dyAww@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Mar 04, 2021 at 09:27:28PM +0900, Masahiro Yamada wrote:
> I agree with rebuilding GCC plugins when the compiler is upgraded
> for *in-tree* building.
> Linus had reported it a couple of months before,
> and I just submitted a very easy fix.

Hm?  So does that mean that a GCC version change won't trigger a
tree-wide rebuild?  So you're asserting that a GCC mismatch is ok for
in-tree code, but not for external modules???  That seems backwards.

For in-tree, why not just rebuild the entire tree?  Some kernel features
are dependent on compiler version or capability, so not rebuilding the
tree could introduce silent breakage.

For external modules, a tree-wide rebuild isn't an option so the risk is
assumed by the user.  I posted a patch earlier [1] which prints a
warning if the compiler major/minor version changes with an external
module build.

[1] https://lkml.kernel.org/r/20210201211322.t2rxmvnrystc2ky7@treble

> Rebuilding plugins for external modules is not easy;
> plugins are placed in the read-only directory,
> /usr/src/linux-headers-$(uname -r)/scripts/gcc-plugins/.
> 
> The external modules must not (cannot) update in-tree
> build artifacts.  "Rebuild" means creating copies in a different
> writable directory.
> Doing that requires a lot of design changes.

Ok.  So it sounds like the best/easiest option is the original patch in
this thread:  when building an external module with a GCC mismatch, just
disable the GCC plugin, with a warning (or an error for randstruct).

-- 
Josh


  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-04 15:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-25 20:42 [PATCH RFC] gcc-plugins: Handle GCC version mismatch for OOT modules Josh Poimboeuf
2021-01-25 21:16 ` Masahiro Yamada
2021-01-25 21:27   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2021-01-25 21:44     ` Masahiro Yamada
2021-01-25 22:07       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2021-01-26  8:13         ` Greg KH
2021-01-26 12:44           ` Justin Forbes
2021-01-26 13:51             ` Greg KH
2021-01-26 14:51               ` Josh Poimboeuf
2021-01-26 15:00                 ` Greg KH
2021-01-26 15:15                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-01-26 15:46                   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2021-01-26 16:05                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-01-26 16:15                       ` Justin Forbes
2021-01-26 16:19                         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2021-01-26 17:06                           ` Greg KH
2021-01-26 17:47                             ` Justin Forbes
2021-01-26 16:22                       ` David Laight
2021-01-27 18:03             ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-01-26  8:12     ` Greg KH
2021-01-25 22:03 ` Kees Cook
2021-01-25 22:19   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2021-01-26 17:56     ` Kees Cook
2021-01-26 18:43       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2021-01-26 22:59         ` Kees Cook
2021-01-26 23:32           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2021-01-26  1:53   ` Masahiro Yamada
2021-01-26 12:16     ` David Laight
2021-01-27 18:02 ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-01-27 18:38   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2021-01-27 18:43     ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-01-27 18:51       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2021-01-27 22:09         ` David Laight
2021-01-28 14:29         ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-01-28 15:45           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2021-03-02 23:26 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2021-03-03 18:49   ` Masahiro Yamada
2021-03-03 19:15     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2021-03-03 19:25       ` Linus Torvalds
2021-03-03 19:38         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2021-03-03 19:57           ` Linus Torvalds
2021-03-03 20:24             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2021-03-03 20:31               ` Josh Poimboeuf
2021-03-03 20:56               ` Linus Torvalds
2021-03-03 21:45                 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2021-03-04 12:27                   ` Masahiro Yamada
2021-03-04 15:08                     ` Josh Poimboeuf [this message]
2021-03-04 15:35                       ` Masahiro Yamada
2021-03-04 19:12                         ` Linus Torvalds
2021-03-05  2:41                           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2021-03-05  2:49                             ` Linus Torvalds
2021-03-05 16:03                             ` Masahiro Yamada
2021-03-05 19:18                               ` Josh Poimboeuf
2021-03-08  9:39                                 ` David Laight
2021-03-05 15:31                           ` Masahiro Yamada
2021-03-03 21:52             ` Kees Cook
2021-03-04 12:26       ` Masahiro Yamada

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