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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
Cc: Masahiro Yamada <masahiroy@kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Michal Marek <michal.lkml@markovi.net>,
	linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org,
	Linux Kbuild mailing list <linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Justin Forbes <jforbes@redhat.com>,
	Ondrej Mosnacek <omosnace@redhat.com>,
	Frank Eigler <fche@redhat.com>, Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] gcc-plugins: Handle GCC version mismatch for OOT modules
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2021 12:56:52 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHk-=wi9J3mM8y+aH9e=HRo95giK4BRyyasayAimB0gdvbvDsQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210303202406.bxgdx5a25j6wc43b@treble>

On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 12:24 PM Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> Your nack is for a different reason: GCC plugins are second-class
> citizens.  Fair enough...

MNo, I didn't NAK it. Quite the reverser.

I am ABSOLUTELY against rebuilding normal object files just because
gcc versions change. A compiler version change makes zero difference
for any normal object file.

But the gcc plugins are different. They very much _are_ tied to a
particular gcc version.

Now, they are tied to a particular gcc version because they are
horribly badly done, and bad technology, and I went off on a bit of a
rant about just how bad they are, but the point is that gcc plugins
depend on the exact gcc version in ways that normal object files do
_not_.

               Linus

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-03-04  0:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-25 20:42 [PATCH RFC] gcc-plugins: Handle GCC version mismatch for OOT modules Josh Poimboeuf
2021-01-25 21:16 ` Masahiro Yamada
2021-01-25 21:27   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2021-01-25 21:44     ` Masahiro Yamada
2021-01-25 22:07       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2021-01-26  8:13         ` Greg KH
2021-01-26 12:44           ` Justin Forbes
2021-01-26 13:51             ` Greg KH
2021-01-26 14:51               ` Josh Poimboeuf
2021-01-26 15:00                 ` Greg KH
2021-01-26 15:15                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-01-26 15:46                   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2021-01-26 16:05                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-01-26 16:15                       ` Justin Forbes
2021-01-26 16:19                         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2021-01-26 17:06                           ` Greg KH
2021-01-26 17:47                             ` Justin Forbes
2021-01-26 16:22                       ` David Laight
2021-01-27 18:03             ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-01-26  8:12     ` Greg KH
2021-01-25 22:03 ` Kees Cook
2021-01-25 22:19   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2021-01-26 17:56     ` Kees Cook
2021-01-26 18:43       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2021-01-26 22:59         ` Kees Cook
2021-01-26 23:32           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2021-01-26  1:53   ` Masahiro Yamada
2021-01-26 12:16     ` David Laight
2021-01-27 18:02 ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-01-27 18:38   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2021-01-27 18:43     ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-01-27 18:51       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2021-01-27 22:09         ` David Laight
2021-01-28 14:29         ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-01-28 15:45           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2021-03-02 23:26 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2021-03-03 18:49   ` Masahiro Yamada
2021-03-03 19:15     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2021-03-03 19:25       ` Linus Torvalds
2021-03-03 19:38         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2021-03-03 19:57           ` Linus Torvalds
2021-03-03 20:24             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2021-03-03 20:31               ` Josh Poimboeuf
2021-03-03 20:56               ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2021-03-03 21:45                 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2021-03-04 12:27                   ` Masahiro Yamada
2021-03-04 15:08                     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2021-03-04 15:35                       ` Masahiro Yamada
2021-03-04 19:12                         ` Linus Torvalds
2021-03-05  2:41                           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2021-03-05  2:49                             ` Linus Torvalds
2021-03-05 16:03                             ` Masahiro Yamada
2021-03-05 19:18                               ` Josh Poimboeuf
2021-03-08  9:39                                 ` David Laight
2021-03-05 15:31                           ` Masahiro Yamada
2021-03-03 21:52             ` Kees Cook
2021-03-04 12:26       ` Masahiro Yamada

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