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From: Sven Van Asbroeck <thesven73@gmail.com>
To: Jonathan Cameron <jonathan.cameron@huawei.com>
Cc: Jonathan Cameron <jic23@kernel.org>,
	Robert Eshleman <bobbyeshleman@gmail.com>,
	Hartmut Knaack <knaack.h@gmx.de>,
	Lars-Peter Clausen <lars@metafoo.de>,
	Peter Meerwald-Stadler <pmeerw@pmeerw.net>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-iio@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] iio: light: Add driver for ap3216c
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2019 14:35:51 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGngYiVQLwFxNJcCCH3byL=_p=L_BjMHJ1kCbjR8XkOF2mN3Ew@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190218151606.00000d10@huawei.com>

Hi Jonathan,

Thanks again for your clear and extensive feedback !

On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 10:16 AM Jonathan Cameron
<jonathan.cameron@huawei.com> wrote:
>
> I suspect that would break lots of devices if it happened, but
> fair enough that explicit might be good.  One option would be
> to document clearly in regmap the requirement that bulk read is ordered.
>

Yes, it would be interesting to hear the regmap people's opinion on ordering.
In the mean time, we can make this explicit.
Re-reading the thread, I can also see that Peter Meerwald-Stadler was first
to spot this race condition.

> What we need to guarantee is:
>
> 1) If the sensor reads on an occasion where the threshold is passed, we do not miss the event
>    The event is the threshold being passed, not the existence of the reading, or how many
>    readings etc.
>
> 2) A data read will result in a value.  There is no guarantee that it will match with the
>    event.  All manner of delays could result in new data having occurred before that read.
>

My feedback was based on two incorrect assumptions:
a. the interrupt fires whenever new PS/ALS values become available (wrong)
b. there are strict consistency guarantees between the THRESH event, and what
userspace will read out (also wrong)

Taking that into account, I am 100% in agreement with your other comments.
Thank you so much for the explanation!

There is one exception, though:

> > +static int ap3216c_write_event_config(struct iio_dev *indio_dev,
> > +                                    const struct iio_chan_spec *chan,
> > +                                    enum iio_event_type type,
> > +                                    enum iio_event_direction dir, int state)
> > +{
> > +       struct ap3216c_data *data = iio_priv(indio_dev);
> > +
> > +       switch (chan->type) {
> > +       case IIO_LIGHT:
> > +               data->als_thresh_en = state;
> > +               return 0;
> > +
> > +       case IIO_PROXIMITY:
> > +               data->prox_thresh_en = state;
> > +               return 0;
> > +
> > +       default:
> > +               return -EINVAL;
> > +       }
> > +static irqreturn_t ap3216c_event_handler(int irq, void *p)
> > +{
> > + if ((status & AP3216C_INT_STATUS_PS_MASK) && data->prox_thresh_en)
> > + iio_push_event(...);
> > +
> >
> > I think this may not work as intended. One thread (userspace) writes
> > a variable, another thread (threaded irq handler) checks it. but there
> > is no explicit or implicit memory barrier. So when userspace activates
> > thresholding, it may take a long time for the handler to 'see' it !
>
> Yes.  But if userspace took a while to get around to writing this value,
> it would also take longer...  It's not time critical exactly when you
> enable the event.  One can create cases where someone might
> care, but they are pretty obscure.
>

Are you sure? I suspect that it's perfectly possible for the threaded irq
handler not to 'see' the store to (als|prox)_thresh_en for a _very_ long time.

AFAIK only a memory barrier will guarantee that the handler 'sees' the store
right away. A lock will do - it issues an implicit memory barrier.

Most drivers use a lock to guarantee visibility. There are a few drivers that
resort to explicit barriers to make a flag visible from one thread to another.

E.g. search for mb() or wmb() in:
drivers/input/keyboard/matrix_keypad.c
drivers/input/misc/cm109.c
drivers/input/misc/yealink.c

  reply	other threads:[~2019-02-18 19:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-02-10 20:36 [PATCH 1/3] iio: light: Add driver for ap3216c Robert Eshleman
2019-02-10 20:39 ` [PATCH 3/3] dt-bindings: iio: light: Add ap3216c Robert Eshleman
2019-02-11 14:58 ` [PATCH 1/3] iio: light: Add driver for ap3216c Peter Meerwald-Stadler
2019-02-13 16:33   ` Robert Eshleman
2019-02-11 19:09 ` Sven Van Asbroeck
2019-02-11 21:27   ` Jonathan Cameron
2019-02-11 22:30     ` Sven Van Asbroeck
2019-02-12 20:47       ` Jonathan Cameron
2019-02-13  4:40         ` Sven Van Asbroeck
2019-02-13  4:56           ` Sven Van Asbroeck
2019-02-18 15:16           ` Jonathan Cameron
2019-02-18 19:35             ` Sven Van Asbroeck [this message]
2019-02-20 12:32               ` Jonathan Cameron
2019-02-20 15:09                 ` Sven Van Asbroeck
2019-02-13 16:18         ` Robert Eshleman
2019-02-11 19:29 ` Sven Van Asbroeck
2019-02-13  2:17   ` Robert Eshleman
2019-02-13  3:25     ` Sven Van Asbroeck
2019-02-18 15:22       ` Jonathan Cameron
2019-02-18 17:13         ` Sven Van Asbroeck

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