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From: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com>
To: Seunghun Han <kkamagui@gmail.com>,
	"Safford, David (GE Global Research, US)" <david.safford@ge.com>
Cc: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>, Peter Huewe <peterhuewe@gmx.de>,
	"open list:TPM DEVICE DRIVER" <linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] tpm: tpm_crb: enhance resource mapping mechanism for supporting AMD's fTPM
Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2019 19:16:49 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3f3ce42707f09eded801ff8543be6aee6ef35cf8.camel@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHjaAcRPg9-9MXiLH7AfJO6P1k25CSwJrSiuUwzFLwN5Ynr0DQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, 2019-09-03 at 18:56 +0900, Seunghun Han wrote:
> Thank you for your notification. I am sorry. I missed it and
> misunderstood Jarkko's idea. So, I would like to invite Matthew
> Garrett to this thread and attach my opinion on that. The problem is
> that command and response buffers are in ACPI NVS area. ACPI NVS area
> is saved and restored by drivers/acpi/nvs.c during hibernation, so
> command and response buffers in ACPI NVS are also handled by nvs.c
> file. However, TPM CRB driver uses the buffers to control a TPM
> device, therefore, something may break.
> 
> I agree on that point. To remove uncertainty and find the solution,
> I read the threads we discussed and did research about two points, 1)
> the race condition and 2) the unexpected behavior of the TPM device.
> 
> 1) The race condition concern comes from unknowing buffer access order
> while hibernation.
> If nvs.c and TPM CRB driver access the buffers concurrently, the race
> condition occurs. Then, we can't know the contents of the buffers
> deterministically, and it may occur the failure of TPM device.
> However, hibernation_snapshot() function calls dpm_suspend() and
> suspend_nvs_save() in order when the system enters into hibernation.
> It also calls suspend_nvs_restore() and dpm_resume() in order when the
> system exits from hibernation. So, no race condition occurs while
> hibernation, and we always guarantee the contents of buffers as we
> expect.
> 
> 2) The unexpected behavior of the TPM device.
> If nvs.c saves and restores the contents of the TPM CRB buffers while
> hibernation, it may occur the unexpected behavior of the TPM device
> because the buffers are used to control the TPM device. When the
> system entered into hibernation, suspend_nvs_save() saved the command
> and response buffers, and they had the last command and response data.
> After exiting from hibernation, suspend_nvs_restore() restored the
> last command and response data into the buffers and nothing happened.
> I realized that they were just buffers. If we want to send a command
> to the TPM device, we have to set the CRB_START_INVOKE bit to a
> control_start register of a control area. The control area was not in
> the ACPI NVS area, so it was not affected by nvs.c file. We can
> guarantee the behavior of the TPM device.
> 
> Because of these two reasons, I agreed on Jarkko's idea in
> https://lkml.org/lkml/2019/8/29/962 . It seems that removing or
> changing regions described in the ACPI table is not natural after
> setup. In my view, saving and restoring buffers was OK like other NVS
> areas were expected because the buffers were in ACPI NVS area.
> 
> So, I made and sent this patch series. I would like to solve this
> AMD's fTPM problem because I have been doing research on TPM and this
> problem is critical for me (as you know fTPM doesn't work). If you
> have any other concern or advice on the patch I made, please let me
> know.

Please take time to edit your responses. Nobody will read that properly
because it is way too exhausting. A long prose only indicates unclear
thoughts in the end. If you know what you are doing, you can put things
into nutshell only in few senteces.

/Jarkko


  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-09-03 16:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-30  9:56 [PATCH 0/2] Enhance support for the AMD's fTPM Seunghun Han
2019-08-30  9:56 ` [PATCH 1/2] tpm: tpm_crb: enhance command and response buffer size calculation code Seunghun Han
2019-08-30  9:56 ` [PATCH 2/2] tpm: tpm_crb: enhance resource mapping mechanism for supporting AMD's fTPM Seunghun Han
2019-08-30 12:43   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-30 13:54     ` Seunghun Han
2019-08-30 14:20       ` Safford, David (GE Global Research, US)
2019-08-30 16:54         ` Seunghun Han
2019-08-30 17:58           ` Safford, David (GE Global Research, US)
2019-09-02 13:53             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2019-09-02 22:42               ` Seunghun Han
2019-09-03 16:10                 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2019-09-03 17:43                   ` Seunghun Han
2019-09-03  9:56             ` Seunghun Han
2019-09-03  9:59               ` Seunghun Han
2019-09-03 12:26               ` Safford, David (GE Global Research, US)
2019-09-03 18:14                 ` Seunghun Han
2019-09-03 16:16               ` Jarkko Sakkinen [this message]
2019-09-03 18:52                 ` Seunghun Han
2019-08-30 14:38       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-30 16:13         ` Seunghun Han
2019-08-31 22:27   ` kbuild test robot

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