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Subject: Re: [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 00/35] Move all PCIBIOS* definitions into arch/x86
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2020 17:12:30 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200715221230.GA563957@bjorn-Precision-5520> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1e2ae69a55f542faa18988a49e9b9491@AcuMS.aculab.com>

On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 02:38:29PM +0000, David Laight wrote:
> From: Oliver O'Halloran
> > Sent: 15 July 2020 05:19
> > 
> > On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 8:03 AM Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> wrote:
> ...
> > > - config space accesses are very rare compared to memory
> > >   space access and on the hardware side the error handling
> > >   would be similar, but readl/writel don't return errors, they just
> > >   access wrong registers or return 0xffffffff.
> > >   arch/powerpc/kernel/eeh.c has a ton extra code written to
> > >   deal with it, but no other architectures do.
> > 
> > TBH the EEH MMIO hooks were probably a mistake to begin with. Errors
> > detected via MMIO are almost always asynchronous to the error itself
> > so you usually just wind up with a misleading stack trace rather than
> > any kind of useful synchronous error reporting. It seems like most
> > drivers don't bother checking for 0xFFs either and rely on the
> > asynchronous reporting via .error_detected() instead, so I have to
> > wonder what the point is. I've been thinking of removing the MMIO
> > hooks and using a background poller to check for errors on each PHB
> > periodically (assuming we don't have an EEH interrupt) instead. That
> > would remove the requirement for eeh_dev_check_failure() to be
> > interrupt safe too, so it might even let us fix all the godawful races
> > in EEH.
> 
> I've 'played' with PCIe error handling - without much success.
> What might be useful is for a driver that has just read ~0u to
> be able to ask 'has there been an error signalled for this device?'.

In many cases a driver will know that ~0 is not a valid value for the
register it's reading.  But if ~0 *could* be valid, an interface like
you suggest could be useful.  I don't think we have anything like that
today, but maybe we could.  It would certainly be nice if the PCI core
noticed, logged, and cleared errors.  We have some of that for AER,
but that's an optional feature, and support for the error bits in the
garden-variety PCI_STATUS register is pretty haphazard.  As you note
below, this sort of SERR/PERR reporting is frequently hard-wired in
ways that takes it out of our purview.

Bjorn
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Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-13 12:22 [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 00/35] Move all PCIBIOS* definitions into arch/x86 Saheed O. Bolarinwa
2020-07-13 12:22 ` [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 01/35] xen-pciback: Change PCIBIOS_SUCCESSFUL to 0 Saheed O. Bolarinwa
2020-07-13 12:22 ` [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 02/35] ssb: " Saheed O. Bolarinwa
2020-07-13 17:16   ` Larry Finger
2020-07-13 19:13     ` Saheed Bolarinwa
2020-07-13 18:29       ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-07-13 18:35       ` Larry Finger
2020-07-13 12:22 ` [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 03/35] scsi: ipr: " Saheed O. Bolarinwa
2020-07-13 12:22 ` [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 04/35] scsi: ipr: Tidy Success/Failure checks Saheed O. Bolarinwa
2020-07-13 12:22 ` [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 05/35] PCI: Change PCIBIOS_SUCCESSFUL to 0 Saheed O. Bolarinwa
2020-07-13 12:22 ` [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 06/35] PCI: Tidy Success/Failure checks Saheed O. Bolarinwa
2020-07-13 13:59   ` Gustavo Pimentel
2020-07-13 12:22 ` [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 07/35] PCI: Change PCIBIOS_SUCCESSFUL to 0 Saheed O. Bolarinwa
2020-07-13 12:22 ` [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 08/35] PCI: Tidy Success/Failure checks Saheed O. Bolarinwa
2020-07-13 12:22 ` [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 09/35] nvme-pci: Change PCIBIOS_SUCCESSFUL to 0 Saheed O. Bolarinwa
2020-07-13 16:42   ` Rajashekar, Revanth
2020-07-13 18:24     ` Saheed Bolarinwa
2020-07-13 12:22 ` [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 10/35] nvme-pci: Tidy Success/Failure checks Saheed O. Bolarinwa
2020-07-13 12:22 ` [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 11/35] r8169: Change PCIBIOS_SUCCESSFUL to 0 Saheed O. Bolarinwa
2020-07-13 12:22 ` [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 12/35] r8169: Tidy Success/Failure checks Saheed O. Bolarinwa
2020-07-13 13:45   ` Heiner Kallweit
2020-07-13 13:09     ` Saheed Bolarinwa
2020-07-13 12:22 ` [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 13/35] cxl: Change PCIBIOS_SUCCESSFUL to 0 Saheed O. Bolarinwa
2020-07-13 12:22 ` [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 14/35] i2c/busses: " Saheed O. Bolarinwa
2020-07-17 14:58   ` Jean Delvare
2020-07-18 19:05     ` Saheed Bolarinwa
2020-07-22 11:06       ` Wolfram Sang
2020-07-13 12:22 ` [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 15/35] i2c/busses: Tidy Success/Failure checks Saheed O. Bolarinwa
2020-07-17 15:11   ` Jean Delvare
2020-07-13 12:22 ` [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 16/35] hwmon: (sis5595) Change PCIBIOS_SUCCESSFUL to 0 Saheed O. Bolarinwa
2020-07-14  5:02   ` Guenter Roeck
2020-07-13 12:22 ` [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 17/35] hwmon: (sis5595) Tidy Success/Failure checks Saheed O. Bolarinwa
2020-07-14  5:04   ` Guenter Roeck
2020-07-13 12:22 ` [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 18/35] bcma: Change PCIBIOS_SUCCESSFUL to 0 Saheed O. Bolarinwa
2020-07-13 12:22 ` [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 19/35] atm: " Saheed O. Bolarinwa
2020-07-13 12:22 ` [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 20/35] atm: Tidy Success/Failure checks Saheed O. Bolarinwa
2020-07-13 12:22 ` [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 21/35] atm: Fix Style ERROR- assignment in if condition Saheed O. Bolarinwa
2020-07-13 12:22 ` [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 22/35] unicore32: Change PCIBIOS_SUCCESSFUL to 0 Saheed O. Bolarinwa
2020-07-13 12:22 ` [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 23/35] sparc/PCI: " Saheed O. Bolarinwa
2020-07-13 12:22 ` [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 24/35] sh: " Saheed O. Bolarinwa
2020-07-20 21:41   ` Rich Felker
2020-07-13 12:22 ` [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 25/35] sh: Tidy Success/Failure checks Saheed O. Bolarinwa
2020-07-13 12:22 ` [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 26/35] powerpc: Change PCIBIOS_SUCCESSFUL to 0 Saheed O. Bolarinwa
2020-07-13 12:22 ` [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 27/35] powerpc: Tidy Success/Failure checks Saheed O. Bolarinwa
2020-07-13 12:22 ` [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 28/35] mips: Change PCIBIOS_SUCCESSFUL to 0 Saheed O. Bolarinwa
2020-07-13 12:22 ` [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 29/35] mips: Tidy Success/Failure checks Saheed O. Bolarinwa
2020-07-13 12:22 ` [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 30/35] microblaze: Change PCIBIOS_SUCCESSFUL to 0 Saheed O. Bolarinwa
2020-07-13 12:22 ` [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 31/35] m68k: " Saheed O. Bolarinwa
2020-07-13 12:22 ` [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 32/35] arm/PCI: " Saheed O. Bolarinwa
2020-07-13 12:22 ` [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 33/35] arm/PCI: Tidy Success/Failure checks Saheed O. Bolarinwa
2020-07-13 12:22 ` [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 34/35] PCI: Change PCIBIOS_SUCCESSFUL to 0 Saheed O. Bolarinwa
2020-07-13 12:22 ` [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 35/35] alpha: Tidy Success/Failure checks Saheed O. Bolarinwa
2020-07-13 15:08 ` [Linux-kernel-mentees] [RFC PATCH 00/35] Move all PCIBIOS* definitions into arch/x86 Arnd Bergmann
2020-07-14 18:45   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-07-14 21:02     ` Kjetil Oftedal
2020-07-15  2:14       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2020-07-14 22:01     ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-07-14 23:46       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-07-15  2:19         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2020-07-15  6:47         ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-07-15 14:24           ` David Laight
2020-07-15 22:01             ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-07-16  8:18               ` David Laight
2020-07-15 22:26           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2020-07-15  4:18       ` Oliver O'Halloran
2020-07-15 14:38         ` David Laight
2020-07-15 22:12           ` Bjorn Helgaas [this message]
2020-07-15 22:49             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2020-07-16  8:07               ` David Laight
2020-07-14 23:14     ` Rob Herring
2020-07-15  2:12     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2020-07-13 22:01 ` Bjorn Helgaas

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