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From: Dirk Gouders <dirk@gouders.net>
To: Ingo Schwarze <schwarze@usta.de>
Cc: Alejandro Colomar <alx.manpages@gmail.com>,
	Colin Watson <cjwatson@debian.org>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
	linux-man@vger.kernel.org, help-texinfo@gnu.org,
	nabijaczleweli@nabijaczleweli.xyz, g.branden.robinson@gmail.com,
	groff@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Accessibility of man pages
Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2023 22:59:32 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <gh8rf2ks3v.fsf@gouders.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZDHPH4wOu+jYqFI9@asta-kit.de> (Ingo Schwarze's message of "Sat, 8 Apr 2023 22:31:27 +0200")

Hi Ingo,

Ingo Schwarze <schwarze@usta.de> writes:

> Hi Dirk,
>
> Dirk Gouders wrote on Sat, Apr 08, 2023 at 09:48:13PM +0200:
>
>> Yes, it's very slow but close to `man -K`:
>> 
>> find...             man -K...
>> 
>> real 107.45         real 96.34
>> user 117.06         user 70.11
>> sys 14.43           sys 26.86
>> 
>> [a thought later]
>> 
>> Oh, I found something much faster:
>> 
>> $ time -p find /usr/share/man -type f | xargs bzgrep -l RLIMIT_NOFILE
>> [snip]
>> 
>> real 24.30
>> user 32.34
>> sys 6.84
>> 
>> Hmm, perhaps, someone has an explanation for this?
>
> These are all terribly slow IMHO.
>
> For comparison, this happens on my OpenBSD notebook, with more than
> five hundred optional software packages installed in addition to the
> complete default installation:
>
>    $ time man -k any=RLIMIT_NOFILE
>   dup, dup2, dup3(2) - duplicate an existing file descriptor
>   getrlimit, setrlimit(2) - control maximum system resource consumption
>   sudoers(5) - default sudo security policy plugin
>     0m00.21s real     0m00.00s user     0m00.03s system

Yes, this is really fast and would allow for quite interesting ways to
work with manual pages.

But, OpenBSD's `man -k` operates on a makewhatis(8) database and not on every
single manual page or am I wrong?

Regards,

Dirk

  reply	other threads:[~2023-04-08 20:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-25 20:37 Playground pager lsp(1) Dirk Gouders
2023-03-25 20:47 ` Dirk Gouders
2023-04-04 23:45   ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-04-05  5:35     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-06  1:10       ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-04-06  8:11         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-06  8:48           ` Gavin Smith
2023-04-07 22:01           ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-04-08  7:05             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-08 13:02               ` Accessibility of man pages (was: Playground pager lsp(1)) Alejandro Colomar
2023-04-08 13:42                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-08 16:06                   ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-04-08 13:47                 ` Colin Watson
2023-04-08 15:42                   ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-04-08 19:48                   ` Accessibility of man pages Dirk Gouders
2023-04-08 20:02                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-08 20:46                       ` Dirk Gouders
2023-04-08 21:53                         ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-04-08 22:33                           ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-04-09 10:28                       ` Ralph Corderoy
2023-04-08 20:31                     ` Ingo Schwarze
2023-04-08 20:59                       ` Dirk Gouders [this message]
2023-04-08 22:39                         ` Ingo Schwarze
2023-04-09  9:50                           ` Dirk Gouders
2023-04-09 10:35                             ` Dirk Gouders
     [not found]                 ` <87a5zhwntt.fsf@ada>
2023-04-09 12:05                   ` Compressed man pages (was: Accessibility of man pages (was: Playground pager lsp(1))) Alejandro Colomar
2023-04-09 12:17                     ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-04-09 18:55                       ` G. Branden Robinson
2023-04-09 12:29                     ` Colin Watson
2023-04-09 13:36                       ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-04-09 13:47                         ` Compressed man pages Ralph Corderoy
2023-04-12  8:13                     ` Compressed man pages (was: Accessibility of man pages (was: Playground pager lsp(1))) Sam James
2023-04-12  8:32                       ` Compressed man pages Ralph Corderoy
2023-04-12 10:35                         ` Mingye Wang
2023-04-12 10:55                           ` Ralph Corderoy
2023-04-12 13:04                       ` Compressed man pages (was: Accessibility of man pages (was: Playground pager lsp(1))) Kerin Millar
2023-04-12 14:24                         ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-04-12 18:52                           ` Mingye Wang
2023-04-12 20:23                             ` Compressed man pages Alejandro Colomar
2023-04-13 10:09                             ` Ralph Corderoy
2023-04-07  2:18         ` Playground pager lsp(1) G. Branden Robinson
2023-04-07  6:36           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-07 11:03             ` Gavin Smith
2023-04-07 14:43             ` man page rendering speed (was: Playground pager lsp(1)) G. Branden Robinson
2023-04-07 15:06               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-07 15:08                 ` Larry McVoy
2023-04-07 17:07                 ` man page rendering speed Ingo Schwarze
2023-04-07 19:04                 ` man page rendering speed (was: Playground pager lsp(1)) Alejandro Colomar
2023-04-07 19:28                   ` Gavin Smith
2023-04-07 20:43                     ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-04-07 16:08               ` Colin Watson
2023-04-08 11:24               ` Ralph Corderoy
2023-04-07 21:26           ` reformatting man pages at SIGWINCH " Alejandro Colomar
2023-04-07 22:09             ` reformatting man pages at SIGWINCH Dirk Gouders
2023-04-07 22:16               ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-04-10 19:05                 ` Dirk Gouders
2023-04-10 19:57                   ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-04-10 20:24                   ` G. Branden Robinson
2023-04-11  9:20                     ` Ralph Corderoy
2023-04-11  9:39                     ` Dirk Gouders
2023-04-17  6:23                       ` G. Branden Robinson
2023-04-08 11:40               ` Ralph Corderoy
2023-04-05 10:02     ` Playground pager lsp(1) Dirk Gouders
2023-04-05 14:19       ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-04-05 18:01         ` Dirk Gouders
2023-04-05 19:07           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-05 19:56             ` Dirk Gouders
2023-04-05 20:38             ` A less presumptive .info? (was: Re: Playground pager lsp(1)) Arsen Arsenović
2023-04-06  8:14               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-06  8:56                 ` Gavin Smith
2023-04-07 13:14                 ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-04-06  1:31       ` Playground pager lsp(1) Alejandro Colomar
2023-04-06  6:01         ` Dirk Gouders

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