From: "Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@Oracle.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, mike.kravetz@Oracle.com,
n-horiguchi@ah.jp.nec.com, aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
gerald.schaefer@de.ibm.com, zhongjiang@huawei.com,
aarcange@redhat.com, kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/hugetlb: Warn the user when issues arise on boot due to hugepages
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2017 15:59:35 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170619195935.tymymev7bntslxci@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170617065141.GB26698@dhcp22.suse.cz>
* Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com> [170617 02:51]:
> On Fri 16-06-17 12:07:55, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > On Mon, 12 Jun 2017 21:35:17 -0400 "Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@Oracle.com> wrote:
> >
> > > >
> > > > > If there's no message stating any
> > > > > configuration issue, then many admins would probably think something is
> > > > > seriously broken and it's not just a simple typo of K vs M.
> > > > >
> > > > > Even though this doesn't catch all errors, I think it's a worth while
> > > > > change since this is currently a silent failure which results in a
> > > > > system crash.
> > > >
> > > > Seriously, this warning just doesn't help in _most_ miscofigurations. It
> > > > just focuses on one particular which really requires to misconfigure
> > > > really badly. And there are way too many other ways to screw your system
> > > > that way, yet we do not warn about many of those. So just try to step
> > > > back and think whether this is something we actually do care about and
> > > > if yes then try to come up with a more reasonable warning which would
> > > > cover a wider range of misconfigurations.
> > >
> > > Understood. Again, I appreciate all the time you have taken on my
> > > patch and explaining your points. I will look at this again as you
> > > have suggested.
> >
> > So do we want to drop
> > mm-hugetlb-warn-the-user-when-issues-arise-on-boot-due-to-hugepages.patch?
> >
> > I'd be inclined to keep it if Liam found it a bit useful - it does have
> > some overhead, but half the patch is in __init code...
>
> I would rather see a more generic warning that would catch more
> misconfiguration than those ultimately broken ones. If we find out that
> such a warning is not feasible then I would not oppose to go with the
> current approach but let's try a bit harder before we go that way.
>
> Liam, are you willing to go that way?
As I see it, and as you have pointed out, we can only be sure it's an
error if it's over 100% of the memory. Although it's certainly worth
while looking for a way to detect an incorrect configuration that
doesn't meet this criteria, I'm not sure it's worth holding out to make
the change. I think giving any direct message could save someone a lot
of debug time. If it's okay, I'd like to go ahead with the change and
also look for a way to correct and notify of a broader range of
configurations that cause severe issues in regards to hugepages.
Thanks,
Liam
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Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-06-03 0:54 [PATCH] mm/hugetlb: Warn the user when issues arise on boot due to hugepages Liam R. Howlett
2017-06-05 4:57 ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-05 15:15 ` Liam R. Howlett
2017-06-06 5:49 ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-06 6:01 ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-12 17:28 ` Liam R. Howlett
2017-06-12 17:49 ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-12 18:37 ` Liam R. Howlett
2017-06-12 18:52 ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-13 1:35 ` Liam R. Howlett
2017-06-13 5:42 ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-13 15:25 ` Liam R. Howlett
2017-06-13 16:26 ` Mike Kravetz
2017-06-14 7:27 ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-14 17:02 ` Mike Kravetz
2017-06-14 7:25 ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-16 19:07 ` Andrew Morton
2017-06-17 0:25 ` Mike Kravetz
2017-06-17 6:51 ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-19 19:59 ` Liam R. Howlett [this message]
2017-06-05 22:38 ` Andrew Morton
2017-06-06 19:03 ` Matthew Wilcox
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