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From: Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>
To: "Michal Koutný" <mkoutny@suse.com>
Cc: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Richard Palethorpe <rpalethorpe@suse.com>, <ltp@lists.linux.it>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] mm: memcg/slab: Stop reparented obj_cgroups from charging root
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2020 10:07:17 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201020170717.GA153102@carbon.DHCP.thefacebook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201020162714.GC46039@blackbook>

On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 06:27:14PM +0200, Michal Koutny wrote:
> Hi.
> 
> On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 03:28:45PM -0700, Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com> wrote:
> > Currently the root memory cgroup is never charged directly, but
> > if an ancestor cgroup is charged, the charge is propagated up to the
> s/ancestor/descendant/

Oops, will fix, thanks!

> 
> > The root memory cgroup doesn't show the charge to a user, neither it
> > does allow to set any limits/protections.
> An appealing claim, I'd like this to be true...
> 
> > Please, note, that cgroup v1 provides root level memory.usage_in_bytes.
> > However, it's not based on page counters (refer to mem_cgroup_usage()).
> ...and it almost is. But there are still exposed kmem and tcpmem counters.

Hm, I wonder what do they show given that we never set sk->sk_memcg
to the root_mem_cgroup (see mem_cgroup_sk_alloc()) and we never charge
the root_mem_cgroup for !slab kmem allocations (see __memcg_kmem_charge_page()).

So yeah, it's quite a mess now, and it looks like it has been broken
in multiple places and for a while.

If we want these counter to function properly, then we should go into the opposite
direction and remove the special handling of the root memory cgroup in many places.

> > To avoid multiple identical checks over the page counters
> > code, for_each_nonroot_ancestor() macro is introduced.
> If the assumptions behind this patch's idea were true, I think the
> implementation would be simpler by merely (not)connecting the root
> counters and keep the traversal as is.

We use some fields in root page counters to calculate protections:
see propagate_protected_usage().

Thanks!


  reply	other threads:[~2020-10-20 17:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-14 19:07 Richard Palethorpe
2020-10-14 20:08 ` Roman Gushchin
2020-10-16  5:40   ` Richard Palethorpe
2020-10-16  9:47 ` Michal Koutný
2020-10-16 10:41   ` Richard Palethorpe
2020-10-16 15:05     ` Richard Palethorpe
2020-10-16 17:26       ` Michal Koutný
2020-10-16 14:53   ` Johannes Weiner
2020-10-16 17:02     ` Roman Gushchin
2020-10-16 17:15     ` Michal Koutný
2020-10-19  8:45       ` Richard Palethorpe
2020-10-19  9:58         ` [PATCH v3] " Richard Palethorpe
2020-10-19 16:58           ` Shakeel Butt
2020-10-20  5:52             ` Richard Palethorpe
2020-10-20 13:49               ` Richard Palethorpe
2020-10-20 16:56                 ` Shakeel Butt
2020-10-21 20:32                   ` Roman Gushchin
2020-10-20 17:24               ` Michal Koutný
2020-10-22  7:04                 ` Richard Palethorpe
2020-10-22 12:28                   ` [PATCH v4] " Richard Palethorpe
2020-10-22 16:37                     ` Shakeel Butt
2020-10-22 17:25                       ` Roman Gushchin
2020-10-22 23:59                         ` Shakeel Butt
2020-10-23  0:40                           ` Roman Gushchin
2020-10-23 15:44                             ` Johannes Weiner
2020-10-23 16:41                             ` Shakeel Butt
2020-10-26  7:32                             ` Richard Palethorpe
2020-10-26 23:14                               ` Roman Gushchin
2020-10-19 22:28       ` [RFC PATCH] " Roman Gushchin
2020-10-20  6:04         ` Richard Palethorpe
2020-10-20 12:02           ` Richard Palethorpe
2020-10-20 14:48         ` Richard Palethorpe
2020-10-20 16:27         ` Michal Koutný
2020-10-20 17:07           ` Roman Gushchin [this message]
2020-10-20 18:18             ` Johannes Weiner
2020-10-21 19:33               ` Roman Gushchin
2020-10-23 16:30                 ` Johannes Weiner
2020-11-10  1:27                   ` Roman Gushchin
2020-11-10 15:11                     ` Shakeel Butt
2020-11-10 19:13                       ` Roman Gushchin
2020-11-20 17:46                       ` Michal Koutný
2020-11-03 13:22                 ` Michal Hocko
2020-11-03 21:30                   ` Roman Gushchin
2020-10-20 16:55         ` Shakeel Butt
2020-10-20 17:17           ` Roman Gushchin

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