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Cc: "Yu, Yu-cheng" <yu-cheng.yu@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 18/39] mm: Handle faultless write upgrades for shstk
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2023 20:19:05 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <27b141c06c37da78afca7214ec7efeaf730162d9.camel@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ad7d94dd-f0aa-bf21-38c3-58ef1e9e46dc@redhat.com>

On Thu, 2023-01-26 at 09:46 +0100, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 26.01.23 01:59, Edgecombe, Rick P wrote:
> > On Wed, 2023-01-25 at 10:43 -0800, Rick Edgecombe wrote:
> > > Thanks for your comments and ideas here, I'll give the:
> > > pte_t pte_mkwrite(struct vm_area_struct *vma, pte_t pte)
> > > ...solution a try.
> > 
> > Well, it turns out there are some pte_mkwrite() callers in other
> > arch's
> > that operate on kernel memory and don't have a VMA. So it needed a
> > new
> 
> Why not pass in NULL as VMA then and document the semantics? The
> less 
> similarly named but slightly different functions, the better :)

Hmm. The x86 and generic versions should probably have the same
semantics, so then if you pass a NULL, it would do a regular
pte_mkwrite() I guess?

I see another benefit of requiring the vma argument, such that raw
pte_mkwrite()s are less likely to appear in core MM code. But I think
the NULL is awkward because it's not obvious, to me at least, what the
implications of that should be.

So it will be confusing to read in the NULL cases for the other archs.
We also have some warnings to catch miss cases in the PTE tear down
code, so the scenario of new code accidentally marking shadow stack
PTEs as writable is not totally unchecked.

The three functions that do slightly different things are:

pte_mkwrite():
Makes a PTE conventionally writable, only takes a PTE. Very clear that
it is a low level helper and what it does.

maybe_mkwrite():
Might make a PTE writable if the VMA allows it.

pte_mkwrite_vma():
Makes a PTE writable in a specific way depending on the VMA

I wonder if the name pte_mkwrite_vma() is maybe just not clear enough.
It takes a VMA, yes, but what does it do with it?

What if it was called pte_mkwrite_type() instead? Some arch's have
additional types of writable memory and this function creates them. Of
course they also have the normal type of writable memory, and
pte_mkwrite() creates that like usual. Doesn't it seem more readable?

  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-26 20:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 120+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-19 21:22 [PATCH v5 00/39] Shadow stacks for userspace Rick Edgecombe
2023-01-19 21:22 ` [PATCH v5 01/39] Documentation/x86: Add CET shadow stack description Rick Edgecombe
2023-01-20  0:38   ` Kees Cook
2023-01-19 21:22 ` [PATCH v5 02/39] x86/shstk: Add Kconfig option for shadow stack Rick Edgecombe
2023-01-20  0:40   ` Kees Cook
2023-01-19 21:22 ` [PATCH v5 03/39] x86/cpufeatures: Add CPU feature flags for shadow stacks Rick Edgecombe
2023-01-20  0:44   ` Kees Cook
2023-01-19 21:22 ` [PATCH v5 04/39] x86/cpufeatures: Enable CET CR4 bit for shadow stack Rick Edgecombe
2023-01-20  0:46   ` Kees Cook
2023-01-19 21:22 ` [PATCH v5 05/39] x86/fpu/xstate: Introduce CET MSR and XSAVES supervisor states Rick Edgecombe
2023-01-20  0:46   ` Kees Cook
2023-01-19 21:22 ` [PATCH v5 06/39] x86/fpu: Add helper for modifying xstate Rick Edgecombe
2023-01-20  0:47   ` Kees Cook
2023-02-01 11:01   ` Borislav Petkov
2023-02-01 17:31     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-02-01 18:18       ` Borislav Petkov
2023-01-19 21:22 ` [PATCH v5 07/39] x86: Add user control-protection fault handler Rick Edgecombe
2023-01-20  0:50   ` Kees Cook
2023-02-03 19:09   ` Borislav Petkov
2023-02-03 19:24     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-02-03 19:44       ` Borislav Petkov
2023-02-03 23:01         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-02-04 10:37           ` Borislav Petkov
2023-01-19 21:22 ` [PATCH v5 08/39] x86/mm: Remove _PAGE_DIRTY from kernel RO pages Rick Edgecombe
2023-01-20  0:52   ` Kees Cook
2023-01-19 21:22 ` [PATCH v5 09/39] x86/mm: Move pmd_write(), pud_write() up in the file Rick Edgecombe
2023-01-19 21:22 ` [PATCH v5 10/39] x86/mm: Introduce _PAGE_COW Rick Edgecombe
2023-01-20  0:55   ` Kees Cook
2023-01-23  9:16   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-01-23  9:28   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-01-23 20:56     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-01-24 16:28       ` David Hildenbrand
2023-01-19 21:22 ` [PATCH v5 11/39] x86/mm: Update pte_modify for _PAGE_COW Rick Edgecombe
2023-01-20  0:57   ` Kees Cook
2023-02-09 14:08   ` Borislav Petkov
2023-02-09 17:09     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-02-10 13:57       ` Borislav Petkov
2023-02-10 17:00         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-02-17 16:11           ` Borislav Petkov
2023-02-17 16:53             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-01-19 21:22 ` [PATCH v5 12/39] x86/mm: Update ptep_set_wrprotect() and pmdp_set_wrprotect() for transition from _PAGE_DIRTY to _PAGE_COW Rick Edgecombe
2023-01-20  0:58   ` Kees Cook
2023-01-19 21:22 ` [PATCH v5 13/39] x86/mm: Start actually marking _PAGE_COW Rick Edgecombe
2023-01-19 21:22 ` [PATCH v5 14/39] mm: Move VM_UFFD_MINOR_BIT from 37 to 38 Rick Edgecombe
2023-01-19 21:22 ` [PATCH v5 15/39] mm: Introduce VM_SHADOW_STACK for shadow stack memory Rick Edgecombe
2023-01-19 21:22 ` [PATCH v5 16/39] x86/mm: Check shadow stack page fault errors Rick Edgecombe
2023-01-20  0:59   ` Kees Cook
2023-01-19 21:22 ` [PATCH v5 17/39] x86/mm: Update maybe_mkwrite() for shadow stack Rick Edgecombe
2023-01-19 21:22 ` [PATCH v5 18/39] mm: Handle faultless write upgrades for shstk Rick Edgecombe
2023-01-23  9:50   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-01-23 20:47     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-01-24 16:24       ` David Hildenbrand
2023-01-24 18:14         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-01-25  9:27           ` David Hildenbrand
2023-01-25 18:43             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-01-26  0:59               ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-01-26  8:46                 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-01-26 20:19                   ` Edgecombe, Rick P [this message]
2023-01-27 16:12                     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-01-28  0:51                       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-01-31  8:46                         ` David Hildenbrand
2023-01-31 23:33                           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-02-01  9:03                             ` David Hildenbrand
2023-02-01 17:32                               ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-02-01 18:03                                 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-01-26  8:57               ` David Hildenbrand
2023-01-26 20:16                 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-01-27 16:19                   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-01-19 21:22 ` [PATCH v5 19/39] mm: Fixup places that call pte_mkwrite() directly Rick Edgecombe
2023-01-20  1:01   ` Kees Cook
2023-02-14  0:09   ` Deepak Gupta
2023-02-14  1:07     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-02-14  6:10       ` Deepak Gupta
2023-02-14 18:24         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-02-15  6:37           ` Deepak Gupta
2023-01-19 21:22 ` [PATCH v5 20/39] mm: Add guard pages around a shadow stack Rick Edgecombe
2023-01-19 21:22 ` [PATCH v5 21/39] mm/mmap: Add shadow stack pages to memory accounting Rick Edgecombe
2023-01-19 21:23 ` [PATCH v5 22/39] mm: Re-introduce vm_flags to do_mmap() Rick Edgecombe
2023-01-19 21:23 ` [PATCH v5 23/39] mm: Don't allow write GUPs to shadow stack memory Rick Edgecombe
2023-01-23  9:10   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-01-23 10:45     ` Florian Weimer
2023-01-23 20:46       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-01-24 16:26         ` David Hildenbrand
2023-01-24 18:42           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-01-24 23:08             ` Kees Cook
2023-01-24 23:41               ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-01-25  9:29                 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-01-25 15:23                   ` Kees Cook
2023-01-25 15:36             ` Schimpe, Christina
2023-01-25 16:43               ` Schimpe, Christina
2023-01-19 21:23 ` [PATCH v5 24/39] x86/mm: Introduce MAP_ABOVE4G Rick Edgecombe
2023-01-19 21:23 ` [PATCH v5 25/39] mm: Warn on shadow stack memory in wrong vma Rick Edgecombe
2023-01-20  1:01   ` Kees Cook
2023-01-19 21:23 ` [PATCH v5 26/39] x86: Introduce userspace API for shadow stack Rick Edgecombe
2023-01-20  1:04   ` Kees Cook
2023-01-19 21:23 ` [PATCH v5 27/39] x86/shstk: Add user-mode shadow stack support Rick Edgecombe
2023-01-20  1:05   ` Kees Cook
2023-01-19 21:23 ` [PATCH v5 28/39] x86/shstk: Handle thread shadow stack Rick Edgecombe
2023-01-19 21:23 ` [PATCH v5 29/39] x86/shstk: Introduce routines modifying shstk Rick Edgecombe
2023-01-20  1:05   ` Kees Cook
2023-01-19 21:23 ` [PATCH v5 30/39] x86/shstk: Handle signals for shadow stack Rick Edgecombe
2023-01-19 21:23 ` [PATCH v5 31/39] x86/shstk: Introduce map_shadow_stack syscall Rick Edgecombe
2023-01-20  1:07   ` Kees Cook
2023-01-19 21:23 ` [PATCH v5 32/39] x86/shstk: Support WRSS for userspace Rick Edgecombe
2023-01-20  1:06   ` Kees Cook
2023-01-19 21:23 ` [PATCH v5 33/39] x86: Expose thread features in /proc/$PID/status Rick Edgecombe
2023-01-19 21:23 ` [PATCH v5 34/39] x86/shstk: Wire in shadow stack interface Rick Edgecombe
2023-01-19 21:23 ` [PATCH v5 35/39] selftests/x86: Add shadow stack test Rick Edgecombe
2023-01-19 21:23 ` [PATCH v5 36/39] x86/fpu: Add helper for initing features Rick Edgecombe
2023-01-19 21:23 ` [PATCH v5 37/39] x86: Add PTRACE interface for shadow stack Rick Edgecombe
2023-01-20  1:08   ` Kees Cook
2023-01-19 21:23 ` [PATCH v5 38/39] x86/shstk: Add ARCH_SHSTK_UNLOCK Rick Edgecombe
2023-01-19 21:23 ` [PATCH v5 39/39] x86/shstk: Add ARCH_SHSTK_STATUS Rick Edgecombe
2023-01-20  1:08   ` Kees Cook
2023-01-19 22:26 ` [PATCH v5 00/39] Shadow stacks for userspace Andrew Morton
2023-01-20 17:27   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-01-20 19:19     ` Kees Cook
2023-01-25 19:46       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-01-20 17:48 ` John Allen
2023-01-22  8:20 ` Mike Rapoport

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