From: Nadav Amit <nadav.amit@gmail.com>
To: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
"open list:MEMORY MANAGEMENT" <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: Potential race in TLB flush batching?
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2017 15:19:00 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3D1386AD-7875-40B9-8C6F-DE02CF8A45A1@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170719214708.wuzq3di6rt43txtn@suse.de>
Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de> wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 01:20:01PM -0700, Nadav Amit wrote:
>>> From a PTE you cannot know the state of mmap_sem because you can rmap
>>> back to multiple mm's for shared mappings. It's also fairly heavy handed.
>>> Technically, you could lock on the basis of the VMA but that has other
>>> consequences for scalability. The staleness is also a factor because
>>> it's a case of "does the staleness matter". Sometimes it does, sometimes
>>> it doesn't. mmap_sem even if it could be used does not always tell us
>>> the right information either because it can matter whether we are racing
>>> against a userspace reference or a kernel operation.
>>>
>>> It's possible your idea could be made work, but right now I'm not seeing a
>>> solution that handles every corner case. I asked to hear what your ideas
>>> were because anything I thought of that could batch TLB flushing in the
>>> general case had flaws that did not improve over what is already there.
>>
>> I don???t disagree with what you say - perhaps my scheme is too simplistic.
>> But the bottom line, if you cannot form simple rules for when TLB needs to
>> be flushed, what are the chances others would get it right?
>
> Broad rule is "flush before the page is freed/reallocated for clean pages
> or any IO is initiated for dirty pages" with a lot of details that are not
> documented. Often it's the PTL and flush with it held that protects the
> majority of cases but it's not universal as the page lock and mmap_sem
> play important rules depending ont the context and AFAIK, that's also
> not documented.
>
>>> shrink_page_list is the caller of try_to_unmap in reclaim context. It
>>> has this check
>>>
>>> if (!trylock_page(page))
>>> goto keep;
>>>
>>> For pages it cannot lock, they get put back on the LRU and recycled instead
>>> of reclaimed. Hence, if KSM or anything else holds the page lock, reclaim
>>> can't unmap it.
>>
>> Yes, of course, since KSM does not batch TLB flushes. I regarded the other
>> direction - first try_to_unmap() removes the PTE (but still does not flush),
>> unlocks the page, and then KSM acquires the page lock and calls
>> write_protect_page(). It finds out the PTE is not present and does not flush
>> the TLB.
>
> When KSM acquires the page lock, it then acquires the PTL where the
> cleared PTE is observed directly and skipped.
I don’t see why. Let’s try again - CPU0 reclaims while CPU1 deduplicates:
CPU0 CPU1
---- ----
shrink_page_list()
=> try_to_unmap()
==> try_to_unmap_one()
[ unmaps from some page-tables ]
[ try_to_unmap returns false;
page not reclaimed ]
=> keep_locked: unlock_page()
[ TLB flush deferred ]
try_to_merge_one_page()
=> trylock_page()
=> write_protect_page()
==> acquire ptl
[ PTE non-present —> no PTE change
and no flush ]
==> release ptl
==> replace_page()
At this point, while replace_page() is running, CPU0 may still not have
flushed the TLBs. Another CPU (CPU2) may hold a stale PTE, which is not
write-protected. It can therefore write to that page while replace_page() is
running, resulting in memory corruption.
No?
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Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-07-11 0:52 Potential race in TLB flush batching? Nadav Amit
2017-07-11 6:41 ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-11 7:30 ` Nadav Amit
2017-07-11 9:29 ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-11 10:40 ` Nadav Amit
2017-07-11 13:20 ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-11 14:58 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-07-11 15:53 ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-11 17:23 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-07-11 19:18 ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-11 20:06 ` Nadav Amit
2017-07-11 21:09 ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-11 20:09 ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-11 21:52 ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-11 22:27 ` Nadav Amit
2017-07-11 22:34 ` Nadav Amit
2017-07-12 8:27 ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-12 23:27 ` Nadav Amit
2017-07-12 23:36 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-07-12 23:42 ` Nadav Amit
2017-07-13 5:38 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-07-13 16:05 ` Nadav Amit
2017-07-13 16:06 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-07-13 6:07 ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-13 16:08 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-07-13 17:07 ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-13 17:15 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-07-13 18:23 ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-14 23:16 ` Nadav Amit
2017-07-15 15:55 ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-15 16:41 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-07-17 7:49 ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-18 21:28 ` Nadav Amit
2017-07-19 7:41 ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-19 19:41 ` Nadav Amit
2017-07-19 19:58 ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-19 20:20 ` Nadav Amit
2017-07-19 21:47 ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-19 22:19 ` Nadav Amit [this message]
2017-07-19 22:59 ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-19 23:39 ` Nadav Amit
2017-07-20 7:43 ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-22 1:19 ` Nadav Amit
2017-07-24 9:58 ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-24 19:46 ` Nadav Amit
2017-07-25 7:37 ` Minchan Kim
2017-07-25 8:51 ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-25 9:11 ` Minchan Kim
2017-07-25 10:10 ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-26 5:43 ` Minchan Kim
2017-07-26 9:22 ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-26 19:18 ` Nadav Amit
2017-07-26 23:40 ` Minchan Kim
2017-07-27 0:09 ` Nadav Amit
2017-07-27 0:34 ` Minchan Kim
2017-07-27 0:48 ` Nadav Amit
2017-07-27 1:13 ` Nadav Amit
2017-07-27 7:04 ` Minchan Kim
2017-07-27 7:21 ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-27 16:04 ` Nadav Amit
2017-07-27 17:36 ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-26 23:44 ` Minchan Kim
2017-07-11 22:07 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-07-11 22:33 ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-14 7:00 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2017-07-14 8:31 ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-14 9:02 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2017-07-14 9:27 ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-14 22:21 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-07-11 16:22 ` Nadav Amit
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