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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Wei Wang <wei.w.wang@intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, mst@redhat.com, cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, mgorman@techsingularity.net,
	aarcange@redhat.com, amit.shah@redhat.com, pbonzini@redhat.com,
	liliang.opensource@gmail.com
Cc: Nitesh Narayan Lal <nilal@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v11 4/6] mm: function to offer a page block on the free list
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 18:49:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7b626551-6d1b-c8d5-4ef7-e357399e78dc@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1497977049.20270.100.camel@redhat.com>

On 20.06.2017 18:44, Rik van Riel wrote:
> On Mon, 2017-06-12 at 07:10 -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
> 
>> The hypervisor is going to throw away the contents of these pages,
>> right?  As soon as the spinlock is released, someone can allocate a
>> page, and put good data in it.  What keeps the hypervisor from
>> throwing
>> away good data?
> 
> That looks like it may be the wrong API, then?
> 
> We already have hooks called arch_free_page and
> arch_alloc_page in the VM, which are called when
> pages are freed, and allocated, respectively.
> 
> Nitesh Lal (on the CC list) is working on a way
> to efficiently batch recently freed pages for
> free page hinting to the hypervisor.
> 
> If that is done efficiently enough (eg. with
> MADV_FREE on the hypervisor side for lazy freeing,
> and lazy later re-use of the pages), do we still
> need the harder to use batch interface from this
> patch?
> 
David's opinion incoming:

No, I think proper free page hinting would be the optimum solution, if
done right. This would avoid the batch interface and even turn
virtio-balloon in some sense useless.

-- 

Thanks,

David

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-06-20 16:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-09 10:41 [PATCH v11 0/6] Virtio-balloon Enhancement Wei Wang
2017-06-09 10:41 ` [PATCH v11 1/6] virtio-balloon: deflate via a page list Wei Wang
2017-06-09 10:41 ` [PATCH v11 2/6] virtio-balloon: coding format cleanup Wei Wang
2017-06-09 10:41 ` [PATCH v11 3/6] virtio-balloon: VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_PAGE_CHUNKS Wei Wang
2017-06-13 17:56   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-06-13 17:59     ` Dave Hansen
2017-06-13 18:55       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-06-15  8:10     ` [virtio-dev] " Wei Wang
2017-06-16  3:19       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-06-28 15:04       ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-07-12 13:05         ` Wei Wang
2017-06-09 10:41 ` [PATCH v11 4/6] mm: function to offer a page block on the free list Wei Wang
2017-06-12 14:10   ` Dave Hansen
2017-06-12 16:28     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-06-12 16:42       ` Dave Hansen
2017-06-12 20:34         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-06-12 20:54           ` Dave Hansen
2017-06-13  2:56             ` Wei Wang
2017-06-20 16:44     ` Rik van Riel
2017-06-20 16:49       ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2017-06-20 17:29         ` Rik van Riel
2017-06-20 18:26           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-06-20 19:51             ` Rik van Riel
2017-06-21 12:41               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-06-21  8:38           ` [Qemu-devel] " Wei Wang
2017-06-20 18:17         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-06-20 18:54           ` David Hildenbrand
2017-06-20 18:56             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-06-20 19:01               ` David Hildenbrand
2017-06-21 12:56         ` Christian Borntraeger
2017-06-21 13:47           ` David Hildenbrand
2017-06-09 10:41 ` [PATCH v11 5/6] mm: export symbol of next_zone and first_online_pgdat Wei Wang
2017-06-09 10:41 ` [PATCH v11 6/6] virtio-balloon: VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_CMD_VQ Wei Wang
2017-06-12 14:07   ` Dave Hansen
2017-06-13 10:17     ` Wei Wang
2017-06-20 16:18   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-06-21  3:28     ` [virtio-dev] " Wei Wang
2017-06-21 12:28       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-06-22  8:40         ` Wei Wang
2017-06-28 15:01           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-07-12 12:57             ` Wei Wang
2017-06-09 11:18 ` [PATCH v11 0/6] Virtio-balloon Enhancement Wang, Wei W

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