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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,  Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	 Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
	 Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] mm: silence soft lockups from unlock_page
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2020 11:32:20 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHk-=wihTRHMm1LC4AfidZptT9ZuT-wBjE2VhYzKBy66e4iwQw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200806180024.GB17456@casper.infradead.org>

On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 11:00 AM Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org> wrote:
>
> It wasn't clear to me whether Hugh thought it was an improvement or
> not that trylock was now less likely to jump the queue.  There're
> the usual "fair is the opposite of throughput" kind of arguments.

Yeah, it could go either way. But on the whole, if the lock bit is
getting any contention, I think we'd rather have it be fair for
latency reasons.

That said, I'm not convinced about my patch, and I actually threw it
away without even testing it (sometimes I keep patches around in my
private tree for testing, and they can live there for months or even
years when I wonder if they are worth it, but this time I didn't
bother to go to the trouble).

If somebody is interested in pursuing this, I think that patch might
be a good starting point (and it _might_ even work), but it seemed to
be too subtle to really worry about unless somebody finds an actual
acute reason for it.

I think the existing patch narrowing the window is good, and it
clearly didn't hurt throughput (although that was almost certainly for
other reasons).

                Linus


  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-06 18:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-21  6:32 [RFC PATCH] mm: silence soft lockups from unlock_page Michal Hocko
     [not found] ` <FCC3EB2D-9F11-4E9E-88F4-40B2926B35CC@lca.pw>
2020-07-21 11:25   ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]     ` <664A07B6-DBCD-4520-84F1-241A4E7A339F@lca.pw>
2020-07-21 12:17       ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]         ` <20200721132343.GA4261@lca.pw>
2020-07-21 13:38           ` Michal Hocko
2020-07-21 14:17 ` Chris Down
2020-07-21 15:00   ` Michal Hocko
2020-07-21 15:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-21 15:49   ` Michal Hocko
2020-07-22 18:29   ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-22 21:29     ` Hugh Dickins
2020-07-22 22:10       ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-22 23:42         ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-23  0:23           ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-23 12:47           ` Oleg Nesterov
2020-07-23 17:32             ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-23 18:01               ` Oleg Nesterov
2020-07-23 18:22                 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-23 19:03                   ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-24 14:45                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2020-07-23 20:03               ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-23 23:11                 ` Hugh Dickins
2020-07-23 23:43                   ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-24  0:07                     ` Hugh Dickins
2020-07-24  0:46                       ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-24  3:45                         ` Hugh Dickins
2020-07-24 15:24                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2020-07-24 17:32                       ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-24 23:25                         ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-25  2:08                           ` Hugh Dickins
2020-07-25  2:46                             ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-25 10:14                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2020-07-25 18:48                             ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-25 19:27                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2020-07-25 19:51                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-26 13:57                                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2020-07-25 21:19                               ` Hugh Dickins
2020-07-26  4:22                                 ` Hugh Dickins
2020-07-26 20:30                                   ` Hugh Dickins
2020-07-26 20:41                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-26 22:09                                       ` Hugh Dickins
2020-07-27 19:35                                     ` Greg KH
2020-08-06  5:46                                       ` Hugh Dickins
2020-08-18 13:50                                         ` Greg KH
2020-08-06  5:21                                     ` Hugh Dickins
2020-08-06 17:07                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2020-08-06 18:00                                         ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-08-06 18:32                                           ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2020-08-07 18:41                                             ` Hugh Dickins
2020-08-07 19:07                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2020-08-07 19:35                                               ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-08-03 13:14                           ` Michal Hocko
2020-08-03 17:56                             ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-25  9:39                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2020-07-23  8:03     ` Michal Hocko

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