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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: "Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 3/8] KVM: Add KVM_EXIT_MEMORY_FAULT exit
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2022 15:59:12 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y3er0M5Rpf1X97W/@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87o7t475o7.fsf@linaro.org>

On Fri, Nov 18, 2022, Alex Bennée wrote:
> 
> Chao Peng <chao.p.peng@linux.intel.com> writes:
> 
> > On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 03:08:17PM +0000, Alex Bennée wrote:
> >> >> I think this should be explicit rather than implied by the absence of
> >> >> another flag. Sean suggested you might want flags for RWX failures so
> >> >> maybe something like:
> >> >> 
> >> >> 	KVM_MEMORY_EXIT_SHARED_FLAG_READ	(1 << 0)
> >> >> 	KVM_MEMORY_EXIT_SHARED_FLAG_WRITE	(1 << 1)
> >> >> 	KVM_MEMORY_EXIT_SHARED_FLAG_EXECUTE	(1 << 2)
> >> >>         KVM_MEMORY_EXIT_FLAG_PRIVATE            (1 << 3)
> >> >
> >> > Yes, but I would not add 'SHARED' to RWX, they are not share memory
> >> > specific, private memory can also set them once introduced.
> >> 
> >> OK so how about:
> >> 
> >>  	KVM_MEMORY_EXIT_FLAG_READ	(1 << 0)
> >>  	KVM_MEMORY_EXIT_FLAG_WRITE	(1 << 1)
> >>  	KVM_MEMORY_EXIT_FLAG_EXECUTE	(1 << 2)
> >>         KVM_MEMORY_EXIT_FLAG_SHARED     (1 << 3)
> >>         KVM_MEMORY_EXIT_FLAG_PRIVATE    (1 << 4)
> >
> > We don't actually need a new bit, the opposite side of private is
> > shared, i.e. flags with KVM_MEMORY_EXIT_FLAG_PRIVATE cleared expresses
> > 'shared'.
> 
> If that is always true and we never expect a 3rd type of memory that is
> fine. But given we are leaving room for expansion having an explicit bit
> allows for that as well as making cases of forgetting to set the flags
> more obvious.

Hrm, I'm on the fence.

A dedicated flag isn't strictly needed, e.g. even if we end up with 3+ types in
this category, the baseline could always be "private".

I do like being explicit, and adding a PRIVATE flag costs KVM practically nothing
to implement and maintain, but evetually we'll up with flags that are paired with
an implicit state, e.g. see the many #PF error codes in x86.  In other words,
inevitably KVM will need to define the default/base state of the access, at which
point the base state for SHARED vs. PRIVATE is "undefined".  

The RWX bits are in the same boat, e.g. the READ flag isn't strictly necessary.
I was thinking more of the KVM_SET_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES ioctl(), which does need
the full RWX gamut, when I typed out that response.

So I would say if we add an explicit READ flag, then we might as well add an explicit
PRIVATE flag too.  But if we omit PRIVATE, then we should omit READ too.


  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-18 15:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-10-25 15:13 [PATCH v9 0/8] KVM: mm: fd-based approach for supporting KVM Chao Peng
2022-10-25 15:13 ` [PATCH v9 1/8] mm: Introduce memfd_restricted system call to create restricted user memory Chao Peng
2022-10-26 17:31   ` Isaku Yamahata
2022-10-28  6:12     ` Chao Peng
2022-10-27 10:20   ` Fuad Tabba
2022-10-31 17:47   ` Michael Roth
2022-11-01 11:37     ` Chao Peng
2022-11-01 15:19       ` Michael Roth
2022-11-01 19:30         ` Michael Roth
2022-11-02 14:53           ` Chao Peng
2022-11-02 21:19             ` Michael Roth
2022-11-14 14:02         ` Vlastimil Babka
2022-11-14 15:28           ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-11-14 22:16             ` Michael Roth
2022-11-15  9:48               ` Chao Peng
2022-11-14 22:16           ` Michael Roth
2022-11-02 21:14     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-11-02 21:26       ` Michael Roth
2022-11-02 22:07       ` Michael Roth
2022-11-03 16:30         ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-11-29  0:06   ` Michael Roth
2022-11-29 11:21     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-11-29 11:39       ` David Hildenbrand
2022-11-29 13:59         ` Chao Peng
2022-11-29 13:58       ` Chao Peng
2022-11-29  0:37   ` Michael Roth
2022-11-29 14:06     ` Chao Peng
2022-11-29 19:06       ` Michael Roth
2022-11-29 19:18         ` Michael Roth
2022-11-30  9:39           ` Chao Peng
2022-11-30 14:31             ` Michael Roth
2022-11-29 18:01     ` Vishal Annapurve
2022-12-02  2:16   ` Vishal Annapurve
2022-12-02  6:49     ` Chao Peng
2022-12-02 13:44       ` Kirill A . Shutemov
2022-10-25 15:13 ` [PATCH v9 2/8] KVM: Extend the memslot to support fd-based private memory Chao Peng
2022-10-27 10:25   ` Fuad Tabba
2022-10-28  7:04   ` Xiaoyao Li
2022-10-31 14:14     ` Chao Peng
2022-11-14 16:04   ` Alex Bennée
2022-11-15  9:29     ` Chao Peng
2022-10-25 15:13 ` [PATCH v9 3/8] KVM: Add KVM_EXIT_MEMORY_FAULT exit Chao Peng
2022-10-25 15:26   ` Peter Maydell
2022-10-25 16:17     ` Sean Christopherson
2022-10-27 10:27   ` Fuad Tabba
2022-10-28  6:14     ` Chao Peng
2022-11-15 16:56   ` Alex Bennée
2022-11-16  3:14     ` Chao Peng
2022-11-16 19:03       ` Alex Bennée
2022-11-17 13:45         ` Chao Peng
2022-11-17 15:08           ` Alex Bennée
2022-11-18  1:32             ` Chao Peng
2022-11-18 13:23               ` Alex Bennée
2022-11-18 15:59                 ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2022-11-22  9:50                   ` Chao Peng
2022-11-23 18:02                     ` Sean Christopherson
2022-11-16 18:15   ` Andy Lutomirski
2022-11-16 18:48     ` Sean Christopherson
2022-11-17 13:42       ` Chao Peng
2022-10-25 15:13 ` [PATCH v9 4/8] KVM: Use gfn instead of hva for mmu_notifier_retry Chao Peng
2022-10-27 10:29   ` Fuad Tabba
2022-11-04  2:28     ` Chao Peng
2022-11-04 22:29       ` Sean Christopherson
2022-11-08  7:16         ` Chao Peng
2022-11-10 17:53           ` Sean Christopherson
2022-11-10 20:06   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-11-11  8:27     ` Chao Peng
2022-10-25 15:13 ` [PATCH v9 5/8] KVM: Register/unregister the guest private memory regions Chao Peng
2022-10-27 10:31   ` Fuad Tabba
2022-11-03 23:04   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-11-04  8:28     ` Chao Peng
2022-11-04 21:19       ` Sean Christopherson
2022-11-08  8:24         ` Chao Peng
2022-11-08  1:35   ` Yuan Yao
2022-11-08  9:41     ` Chao Peng
2022-11-09  5:52       ` Yuan Yao
2022-11-16 22:24   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-11-17 13:20     ` Chao Peng
2022-10-25 15:13 ` [PATCH v9 6/8] KVM: Update lpage info when private/shared memory are mixed Chao Peng
2022-10-26 20:46   ` Isaku Yamahata
2022-10-28  6:38     ` Chao Peng
2022-11-08 12:08   ` Yuan Yao
2022-11-09  4:13     ` Chao Peng
2022-10-25 15:13 ` [PATCH v9 7/8] KVM: Handle page fault for private memory Chao Peng
2022-10-26 21:54   ` Isaku Yamahata
2022-10-28  6:55     ` Chao Peng
2022-11-01  0:02       ` Isaku Yamahata
2022-11-01 11:38         ` Chao Peng
2022-11-16 20:50   ` Ackerley Tng
2022-11-16 22:13     ` Sean Christopherson
2022-11-17 13:25       ` Chao Peng
2022-10-25 15:13 ` [PATCH v9 8/8] KVM: Enable and expose KVM_MEM_PRIVATE Chao Peng
2022-10-27 10:31   ` Fuad Tabba
2022-11-03 12:13 ` [PATCH v9 0/8] KVM: mm: fd-based approach for supporting KVM Vishal Annapurve
2022-11-08  0:41   ` Isaku Yamahata
2022-11-09 15:54     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-11-15 14:36       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-11-14 11:43 ` Alex Bennée
2022-11-16  5:00   ` Chao Peng
2022-11-16  9:40     ` Alex Bennée
2022-11-17 14:16       ` Chao Peng

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