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From: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
To: Yang Shi <yang.shi@linux.alibaba.com>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: mgorman@techsingularity.net, riel@surriel.com,
	hannes@cmpxchg.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	keith.busch@intel.com, dan.j.williams@intel.com,
	fengguang.wu@intel.com, fan.du@intel.com, ying.huang@intel.com,
	ziy@nvidia.com, linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [v2 RFC PATCH 0/9] Another Approach to Use PMEM as NUMA Node
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2019 14:22:33 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a0bf6b61-1ec2-6209-5760-80c5f205d52e@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <876768ad-a63a-99c3-59de-458403f008c4@linux.alibaba.com>

On 4/16/19 12:19 PM, Yang Shi wrote:
> would we prefer to try all the nodes in the fallback order to find the
> first less contended one (i.e. DRAM0 -> PMEM0 -> DRAM1 -> PMEM1 -> Swap)?

Once a page went to DRAM1, how would we tell that it originated in DRAM0
and is following the DRAM0 path rather than the DRAM1 path?

Memory on DRAM0's path would be:

	DRAM0 -> PMEM0 -> DRAM1 -> PMEM1 -> Swap

Memory on DRAM1's path would be:

	DRAM1 -> PMEM1 -> DRAM0 -> PMEM0 -> Swap

Keith Busch had a set of patches to let you specify the demotion order
via sysfs for fun.  The rules we came up with were:
1. Pages keep no history of where they have been
2. Each node can only demote to one other node
3. The demotion path can not have cycles

That ensures that we *can't* follow the paths you described above, if we
follow those rules...


  reply	other threads:[~2019-04-16 21:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-04-11  3:56 [v2 RFC PATCH 0/9] Another Approach to Use PMEM as NUMA Node Yang Shi
2019-04-11  3:56 ` [v2 PATCH 1/9] mm: define N_CPU_MEM node states Yang Shi
2019-04-11  3:56 ` [v2 PATCH 2/9] mm: page_alloc: make find_next_best_node find return cpuless node Yang Shi
2019-04-11  3:56 ` [v2 PATCH 3/9] mm: numa: promote pages to DRAM when it gets accessed twice Yang Shi
2019-04-11  3:56 ` [v2 PATCH 4/9] mm: migrate: make migrate_pages() return nr_succeeded Yang Shi
2019-04-11  3:56 ` [v2 PATCH 5/9] mm: vmscan: demote anon DRAM pages to PMEM node Yang Shi
2019-04-11 14:31   ` Dave Hansen
2019-04-15 22:10     ` Yang Shi
2019-04-15 22:14       ` Dave Hansen
2019-04-15 22:26         ` Yang Shi
2019-04-11  3:56 ` [v2 PATCH 6/9] mm: vmscan: don't demote for memcg reclaim Yang Shi
2019-04-11  3:56 ` [v2 PATCH 7/9] mm: vmscan: check if the demote target node is contended or not Yang Shi
2019-04-11 16:06   ` Dave Hansen
2019-04-15 22:06     ` Yang Shi
2019-04-15 22:13       ` Dave Hansen
2019-04-15 22:23         ` Yang Shi
2019-04-11  3:56 ` [v2 PATCH 8/9] mm: vmscan: add page demotion counter Yang Shi
2019-04-11  3:56 ` [v2 PATCH 9/9] mm: numa: add page promotion counter Yang Shi
2019-04-11 14:28 ` [v2 RFC PATCH 0/9] Another Approach to Use PMEM as NUMA Node Dave Hansen
2019-04-12  8:47 ` Michal Hocko
2019-04-16  0:09   ` Yang Shi
2019-04-16  7:47     ` Michal Hocko
2019-04-16 14:30       ` Dave Hansen
2019-04-16 14:39         ` Michal Hocko
2019-04-16 15:46           ` Dave Hansen
2019-04-16 18:34             ` Michal Hocko
2019-04-16 15:33         ` Zi Yan
2019-04-16 15:55           ` Dave Hansen
2019-04-16 16:12             ` Zi Yan
2019-04-16 19:19       ` Yang Shi
2019-04-16 21:22         ` Dave Hansen [this message]
2019-04-16 21:59           ` Yang Shi
2019-04-16 23:04             ` Dave Hansen
2019-04-16 23:17               ` Yang Shi
2019-04-17 15:13                 ` Keith Busch
2019-04-17  9:23           ` Michal Hocko
2019-04-17 15:23             ` Keith Busch
2019-04-17 15:39               ` Michal Hocko
2019-04-17 15:37                 ` Keith Busch
2019-04-17 16:39                   ` Michal Hocko
2019-04-17 17:26                     ` Yang Shi
2019-04-17 17:29                       ` Keith Busch
2019-04-17 17:51                       ` Michal Hocko
2019-04-18 16:24                         ` Yang Shi
2019-04-17 17:13             ` Dave Hansen
2019-04-17 17:57               ` Michal Hocko
2019-04-18 18:16               ` Keith Busch
2019-04-18 19:23                 ` Yang Shi
2019-04-18 21:07                   ` Zi Yan
2019-04-16 23:18         ` Yang Shi
2019-04-17  9:17         ` Michal Hocko
2019-05-01  6:43           ` Fengguang Wu
2019-04-17 20:43         ` Yang Shi
2019-04-18  9:02           ` Michal Hocko
2019-05-01  5:20             ` Fengguang Wu

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