From: Alexandre Chartre <alexandre.chartre@oracle.com>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
pbonzini@redhat.com, rkrcmar@redhat.com, tglx@linutronix.de,
mingo@redhat.com, bp@alien8.de, hpa@zytor.com,
dave.hansen@linux.intel.com, luto@kernel.org,
peterz@infradead.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: konrad.wilk@oracle.com, jan.setjeeilers@oracle.com,
liran.alon@oracle.com, jwadams@google.com, graf@amazon.de,
rppt@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [RFC v2 00/27] Kernel Address Space Isolation
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2019 16:06:34 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <bfd62213-c7c0-4a90-b377-0de7d9557c4c@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <dbbf6b05-14b6-d184-76f2-8d4da80cec75@intel.com>
On 7/12/19 3:51 PM, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On 7/12/19 1:09 AM, Alexandre Chartre wrote:
>> On 7/12/19 12:38 AM, Dave Hansen wrote:
>>> I don't see the per-cpu areas in here. But, the ASI macros in
>>> entry_64.S (and asi_start_abort()) use per-cpu data.
>>
>> We don't map all per-cpu areas, but only the per-cpu variables we need. ASI
>> code uses the per-cpu cpu_asi_session variable which is mapped when an ASI
>> is created (see patch 15/26):
>
> No fair! I had per-cpu variables just for PTI at some point and had to
> give them up! ;)
>
>> + /*
>> + * Map the percpu ASI sessions. This is used by interrupt handlers
>> + * to figure out if we have entered isolation and switch back to
>> + * the kernel address space.
>> + */
>> + err = ASI_MAP_CPUVAR(asi, cpu_asi_session);
>> + if (err)
>> + return err;
>>
>>
>>> Also, this stuff seems to do naughty stuff (calling C code, touching
>>> per-cpu data) before the PTI CR3 writes have been done. But, I don't
>>> see anything excluding PTI and this code from coexisting.
>>
>> My understanding is that PTI CR3 writes only happens when switching to/from
>> userland. While ASI enter/exit/abort happens while we are already in the
>> kernel,
>> so asi_start_abort() is not called when coming from userland and so not
>> interacting with PTI.
>
> OK, that makes sense. You only need to call C code when interrupted
> from something in the kernel (deeper than the entry code), and those
> were already running kernel C code anyway.
>
Exactly.
> If this continues to live in the entry code, I think you have a good
> clue where to start commenting.
Yeah, lot of writing to do... :-)
> BTW, the PTI CR3 writes are not *strictly* about the interrupt coming
> from user vs. kernel. It's tricky because there's a window both in the
> entry and exit code where you are in the kernel but have a userspace CR3
> value. You end up needing a CR3 write when you have a userspace CR3
> value when the interrupt occurred, not only when you interrupt userspace
> itself.
>
Right. ASI is simpler because it comes from the kernel and return to the
kernel. There's just a small window (on entry) where we have the ASI CR3
but we quickly switch to the full kernel CR3.
alex.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-07-12 14:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-07-11 14:25 [RFC v2 00/27] Kernel Address Space Isolation Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-11 14:25 ` [RFC v2 01/26] mm/x86: Introduce kernel address space isolation Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-11 21:33 ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-07-12 7:43 ` Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-11 14:25 ` [RFC v2 02/26] mm/asi: Abort isolation on interrupt, exception and context switch Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-11 20:11 ` Andi Kleen
2019-07-11 20:17 ` Mike Rapoport
2019-07-11 20:41 ` Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-12 0:05 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-07-12 7:50 ` Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-11 14:25 ` [RFC v2 03/26] mm/asi: Handle page fault due to address space isolation Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-11 14:25 ` [RFC v2 04/26] mm/asi: Functions to track buffers allocated for an ASI page-table Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-11 14:25 ` [RFC v2 05/26] mm/asi: Add ASI page-table entry offset functions Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-11 14:25 ` [RFC v2 06/26] mm/asi: Add ASI page-table entry allocation functions Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-11 14:25 ` [RFC v2 07/26] mm/asi: Add ASI page-table entry set functions Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-11 14:25 ` [RFC v2 08/26] mm/asi: Functions to populate an ASI page-table from a VA range Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-11 14:25 ` [RFC v2 09/26] mm/asi: Helper functions to map module into ASI Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-11 14:25 ` [RFC v2 10/26] mm/asi: Keep track of VA ranges mapped in ASI page-table Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-11 14:25 ` [RFC v2 11/26] mm/asi: Functions to clear ASI page-table entries for a VA range Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-11 14:25 ` [RFC v2 12/26] mm/asi: Function to copy page-table entries for percpu buffer Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-11 14:25 ` [RFC v2 13/26] mm/asi: Add asi_remap() function Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-11 14:25 ` [RFC v2 14/26] mm/asi: Handle ASI mapped range leaks and overlaps Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-11 14:25 ` [RFC v2 15/26] mm/asi: Initialize the ASI page-table with core mappings Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-11 14:25 ` [RFC v2 16/26] mm/asi: Option to map current task into ASI Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-11 14:25 ` [RFC v2 17/26] rcu: Move tree.h static forward declarations to tree.c Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-11 14:25 ` [RFC v2 18/26] rcu: Make percpu rcu_data non-static Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-11 14:25 ` [RFC v2 19/26] mm/asi: Add option to map RCU data Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-11 14:25 ` [RFC v2 20/26] mm/asi: Add option to map cpu_hw_events Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-11 14:25 ` [RFC v2 21/26] mm/asi: Make functions to read cr3/cr4 ASI aware Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-11 14:25 ` [RFC v2 22/26] KVM: x86/asi: Introduce address_space_isolation module parameter Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-11 14:25 ` [RFC v2 23/26] KVM: x86/asi: Introduce KVM address space isolation Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-11 14:25 ` [RFC v2 24/26] KVM: x86/asi: Populate the KVM ASI page-table Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-11 14:25 ` [RFC v2 25/26] KVM: x86/asi: Switch to KVM address space on entry to guest Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-11 14:25 ` [RFC v2 26/26] KVM: x86/asi: Map KVM memslots and IO buses into KVM ASI Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-11 14:40 ` [RFC v2 00/27] Kernel Address Space Isolation Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-11 22:38 ` Dave Hansen
2019-07-12 8:09 ` Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-12 13:51 ` Dave Hansen
2019-07-12 14:06 ` Alexandre Chartre [this message]
2019-07-12 15:23 ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-07-12 10:44 ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-07-12 11:56 ` Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-12 12:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-07-12 13:43 ` Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-12 13:58 ` Dave Hansen
2019-07-12 14:36 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-07-14 18:17 ` Alexander Graf
2019-07-12 13:54 ` Dave Hansen
2019-07-12 15:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-07-12 15:16 ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-07-12 16:37 ` Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-12 16:45 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-07-14 17:11 ` Mike Rapoport
2019-07-12 19:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-07-14 15:06 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-07-15 10:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-07-12 19:48 ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-07-15 8:23 ` Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-15 8:28 ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-07-12 16:00 ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-07-12 11:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-07-12 12:17 ` Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-12 12:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-07-12 12:47 ` Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-12 13:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-07-12 13:46 ` Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-31 16:31 ` Dario Faggioli
2019-08-22 12:31 ` Alexandre Chartre
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