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From: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
Cc: Rajat Jain <rajatja@google.com>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	Lu Baolu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>,
	Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
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	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Heikki Krogerus <heikki.krogerus@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/7] PCI: Set "untrusted" flag for truly external devices only
Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2020 20:48:55 +0200
Message-ID: <20200706184855.GA2335741@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200706164126.GA124329@bjorn-Precision-5520>

On Mon, Jul 06, 2020 at 11:41:26AM -0500, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 09:55:54AM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 09:49:38PM -0700, Rajat Jain wrote:
> > > The "ExternalFacing" devices (root ports) are still internal devices that
> > > sit on the internal system fabric and thus trusted. Currently they were
> > > being marked untrusted.
> > > 
> > > This patch uses the platform flag to identify the external facing devices
> > > and then use it to mark any downstream devices as "untrusted". The
> > > external-facing devices themselves are left as "trusted". This was
> > > discussed here: https://lkml.org/lkml/2020/6/10/1049
> > 
> > {sigh}
> > 
> > First off, please use lore.kernel.org links, we don't control lkml.org
> > and it often times has been down.
> > 
> > Also, you need to put all of the information in the changelog, referring
> > to another place isn't always the best thing, considering you will be
> > looking this up in 20+ years to try to figure out why people came up
> > with such a crazy design.
> > 
> > But, the main point is, no, we did not decide on this.  "trust" is a
> > policy decision to make by userspace, it is independant of "location",
> > while you are tieing it directly here, which is what I explicitly said
> > NOT to do.
> > 
> > So again, no, I will NAK this patch as-is, sorry, you are mixing things
> > together in a way that it should not do at this point in time.
> 
> What do you see being mixed together here?  I acknowledge that the
> name of "pdev->untrusted" is probably a mistake.  But this patch
> doesn't change anything there.  It only changes the treatment of the
> edge case of the "ExternalFacing" ports.  Previously we treated them
> as being external themselves, which does seem wrong.

I don't see the patch here, and it's been a while but I think there is a
mixture of "location" and "trust" happening here with a single value
when they should be separate.

Hopefully the next round of this patch series will be better.

thanks,

greg k-h

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Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-30  4:49 [PATCH v2 0/7] Tighten PCI security, expose dev location in sysfs Rajat Jain
2020-06-30  4:49 ` [PATCH v2 1/7] PCI: Keep the ACS capability offset in device Rajat Jain
2020-07-06 15:58   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-07-06 22:16     ` Rajat Jain
2020-07-06 23:18       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-06-30  4:49 ` [PATCH v2 2/7] PCI: Set "untrusted" flag for truly external devices only Rajat Jain
2020-06-30  7:38   ` Lu Baolu
2020-06-30  7:55   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-07-06 16:41     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-07-06 18:48       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman [this message]
2020-07-06 16:38   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-07-06 22:31     ` Rajat Jain
2020-07-06 23:30       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-07-06 23:40         ` Rajat Jain
2020-06-30  4:49 ` [PATCH v2 3/7] PCI/ACS: Enable PCI_ACS_TB for untrusted/external-facing devices Rajat Jain
2020-07-06 16:45   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-07-06 23:12     ` Rajat Jain
2020-07-06 17:07   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-07-06 23:19     ` Rajat Jain
2020-06-30  4:49 ` [PATCH v2 4/7] PCI: Add device even if driver attach failed Rajat Jain
2020-06-30  8:02   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-07-06 23:35     ` Rajat Jain
2020-06-30  4:49 ` [PATCH v2 5/7] driver core: Add device location to "struct device" and expose it in sysfs Rajat Jain
2020-06-30  8:01   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-06-30 10:49   ` Heikki Krogerus
2020-06-30 12:52     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-06-30 13:00       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-06-30 15:38         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-06-30 16:08           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-06-30 17:00             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-07-01 18:06               ` Rajat Jain
2020-07-02  5:23                 ` Oliver O'Halloran
2020-07-02  7:32                   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-07-02  8:40                     ` Oliver O'Halloran
2020-07-02  8:52                       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-07-02  8:53                         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-07-07  6:03                   ` Rajat Jain
2020-06-30 17:43   ` Saravana Kannan
2020-06-30  4:49 ` [PATCH v2 6/7] PCI: Move pci_dev->untrusted logic to use device location instead Rajat Jain
2020-06-30  7:39   ` Lu Baolu
2020-06-30  4:49 ` [PATCH v2 7/7] PCI: Add parameter to disable attaching external devices Rajat Jain
2020-07-04 11:44 ` [PATCH v2 0/7] Tighten PCI security, expose dev location in sysfs Pavel Machek
2020-07-06 22:18   ` Rajat Jain

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