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From: Anup Patel <Anup.Patel@wdc.com>
To: Damien Le Moal <Damien.LeMoal@wdc.com>,
	Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>
Cc: "linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org>,
	Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>
Subject: RE: [PATCH 04/10] riscv: Add BUILTIN_DTB support
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2020 05:37:16 +0000
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Damien Le Moal
> Sent: 05 March 2020 10:44
> To: Anup Patel <Anup.Patel@wdc.com>; Palmer Dabbelt
> <palmer@dabbelt.com>
> Cc: linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org; Paul Walmsley
> <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>
> Subject: Re: [PATCH 04/10] riscv: Add BUILTIN_DTB support
> 
> On 2020/03/05 13:58, Anup Patel wrote:
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>
> >> Sent: 05 March 2020 00:59
> >> To: Damien Le Moal <Damien.LeMoal@wdc.com>
> >> Cc: linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org; Paul Walmsley
> >> <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>; Anup Patel <Anup.Patel@wdc.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [PATCH 04/10] riscv: Add BUILTIN_DTB support
> >>
> >> On Wed, 12 Feb 2020 02:34:26 PST (-0800), Damien Le Moal wrote:
> >>> Enable a kernel builtin dtb for boards not capable of providing a
> >>> device tree to the kernel.
> >>
> >> I'd prefer if we picked a mechanism that allows a single kernel
> >> binary to be run on multiple systems.  I think there's two use cases here:
> >
> > I strongly support "single kernel binary for multiple systems" but
> > it's for different purpose here.
> >
> >>
> >> * Bootloaders that provide no DTB at all.
> >> * Bootloaders that provied a DTB that, for some reason, isn't usable.
> 
> Sure, but as Anup mentions below, the current use case it to not even use
> any bootloader at all for the K210 since that brings no value at all (in my
> opinion). More on this below.
> 
> >>
> >> Given those constraints, could we do something similar to the early
> fixups?
> >> I'm thinking we could build a mapping between a hardware identifier
> >> and a DTB, then look up the DTB we want to use.  Users that want a
> >> kernel that only runs on a single device can do so by configuring
> >> only a single DTB, users that want a more portable kernel can select
> >> a bunch -- that's essentially the same as how we're treating
> >> everything else (for example, the
> >> CONFIG_SOC_* stuff).
> >
> > There is no bootloader on Kendryte K210. The Linux RISC-V NOMMU kernel
> > boots directly. The BUILTIN_DTB is only applicable to cases where
> > there is no bootloader before kernel.
> >
> > The Linux RISC-V NOMMU will tend be used in cases where:
> > 1. There is no bootloader and kernel boots directly hence we need
> > builtin DTB feature.
> > 2. There is very less RAM so we will have to build kernel specific to
> > a particular platform with bare minimum drivers. Due to this, we will
> > have separate defconfig for NOMMU platforms.
> >
> > I think point1 can be tackled if we enforce having bootloader (such as
> > U-Boot) for NOMMU systems and drop this patch.
> 
> But that would go against point 2 as that will use more memory... By "drop
> this patch", may be you meant to say "not use this config option" ?

I meant to use U-Boot on Kendryte to launch kernel.

> 
> > For point2 above, we don't have much alternatives other than reducing
> > kernel binary size by disabling unwanted drivers.
> 
> And not using a boot loader. Sean got U-boot working with Kendryte, so it is
> not that we cannot make it work. It is only that it may be less optimal due to
> the memory used by the boot loader itself. Unless we can recover it if the
> kernel relocate itself over it ? Surely doable, but it does sound to me like an
> overkill for this particular use case, i.e. a tiny, hyper-embedded board where
> running Linux is probably not the best choice in the first place, at least when
> looking at real applications. The story is different for "hobbyist" level. My on-
> going 6 DoF robotic arm project controlled with Linux on K210 is a valid use
> case after all :)

Dropping BUILTIN DTB feature will be more like a Linux RISC-V policy thingy.
My suggestion was more about discouraging Linux S-mode users to use the
BUILTIN DTB feature.

I agree that it is difficult to fit a proper boot-flow (having proper bootloader)
due to limited RAM. If we don't link DTB to Linux RISC-V NOMMU then some
thing else need to provide it hence bootloader suggestion.

Apart from the Linux RISC-V NOMMU use-case, the BUILTIN DTB feature can
be useful in environments such as FPGAs/Palladium where proper bootloader
is not available.

Regards,
Anup

> 
> >
> >>
> >> For the hardware ID, could we do something like:
> >>
> >> * Check for the top-level DT compatible string, on systems where we
> have a
> >>   provided DTB.
> >> * Check for a matching mimpid/marchid/mvendorid tuple, maybe with
> >> some sort of
> >>   masking functionality if we later need one.  These are availiable via SBI
> >>   calls, but I'd be inclined to restrict them to M-mode boot and just say the
> >>   SBI must provide a device tree with at least a suitable compatible string.
> >>
> >> While I suppose we could put together a tool for generating these
> >> tables, for now we could probably just stick the mappings in a table
> >> for now given that there's only one of them.
> >>
> >> That said, I'm not sure what to do about the different Kendryte
> >> boards -- is there any way to poke the hardware to see which is which?
> >
> > I am sure there are two three different boards out there. Don't know
> > exact differences between these boards.
> 
> As far as I can tell, all the boards use the exact same SoC. No differences that
> I can detect nor aware of. What differs between the different flavors of
> boards are the perypherals attached: some have WiFi, different LCDs and
> different cameras. The device tree is able to describe that of course, but the
> core dtsi part for the SoC itself seem to be OK at least for the 4 different
> boards I have (Kendryte KD233, Sipeed MAIXDUINO, MAIX Go and Dan
> Dock).
> 
> >
> > Regards,
> > Anup
> >
> >>
> >>> Signed-off-by: Damien Le Moal <damien.lemoal@wdc.com>
> >>> ---
> >>>  arch/riscv/Kbuild            |  1 +
> >>>  arch/riscv/Kconfig           | 18 ++++++++++++++++++
> >>>  arch/riscv/boot/dts/Makefile |  4 ++++
> >>>  arch/riscv/kernel/setup.c    |  6 ++++++
> >>>  arch/riscv/mm/init.c         |  4 ++++
> >>>  5 files changed, 33 insertions(+)
> >>>
> >>> diff --git a/arch/riscv/Kbuild b/arch/riscv/Kbuild index
> >>> d1d0aa70fdf1..988804e430e4 100644
> >>> --- a/arch/riscv/Kbuild
> >>> +++ b/arch/riscv/Kbuild
> >>> @@ -1,3 +1,4 @@
> >>>  # SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0-only
> >>>
> >>>  obj-y += kernel/ mm/ net/
> >>> +obj-$(CONFIG_USE_BUILTIN_DTB)	+= boot/dts/
> >>> diff --git a/arch/riscv/Kconfig b/arch/riscv/Kconfig index
> >>> 1a3b5a5276be..28899e15f548 100644
> >>> --- a/arch/riscv/Kconfig
> >>> +++ b/arch/riscv/Kconfig
> >>> @@ -355,6 +355,24 @@ config CMDLINE_FORCE
> >>>
> >>>  endchoice
> >>>
> >>> +config USE_BUILTIN_DTB
> >>> +	bool "Use builtin DTB"
> >>> +	help
> >>> +	  Link a device tree blob for particular hardware into the kernel,
> >>> +	  suppressing use of the DTB pointer provided by the bootloader.
> >>> +	  This option should only be used with hardware or bootloaders that
> >>> +	  are not capable of providing a DTB to the kernel, or for
> >>> +	  experimental hardware without stable device tree bindings.
> >>> +
> >>> +config BUILTIN_DTB_SOURCE
> >>> +	string "Source file for builtin DTB"
> >>> +	default ""
> >>> +	depends on USE_BUILTIN_DTB
> >>> +	help
> >>> +	  Base name (without suffix, relative to arch/riscv/boot/dts) for
> >>> +	  the a DTS file that will be used to produce the DTB linked into
> >>> +	  the kernel.
> >>> +
> >>>  endmenu
> >>>
> >>>  menu "Power management options"
> >>> diff --git a/arch/riscv/boot/dts/Makefile
> >>> b/arch/riscv/boot/dts/Makefile index dcc3ada78455..0bf2669aa12d
> >>> 100644
> >>> --- a/arch/riscv/boot/dts/Makefile
> >>> +++ b/arch/riscv/boot/dts/Makefile
> >>> @@ -1,2 +1,6 @@
> >>>  # SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0
> >>> +ifneq ($(CONFIG_BUILTIN_DTB_SOURCE),"")
> >>> +obj-$(CONFIG_USE_BUILTIN_DTB) += $(patsubst
> >>> +"%",%,$(CONFIG_BUILTIN_DTB_SOURCE)).dtb.o
> >>> +else
> >>>  subdir-y += sifive
> >>> +endif
> >>> diff --git a/arch/riscv/kernel/setup.c b/arch/riscv/kernel/setup.c
> >>> index 0a6d415b0a5a..3e89be9d888c 100644
> >>> --- a/arch/riscv/kernel/setup.c
> >>> +++ b/arch/riscv/kernel/setup.c
> >>> @@ -68,7 +68,13 @@ void __init setup_arch(char **cmdline_p)
> >>>
> >>>  	setup_bootmem();
> >>>  	paging_init();
> >>> +
> >>> +#if IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_USE_BUILTIN_DTB)
> >>> +	unflatten_and_copy_device_tree();
> >>> +#else
> >>>  	unflatten_device_tree();
> >>> +#endif
> >>> +
> >>>  	clint_init_boot_cpu();
> >>>
> >>>  #ifdef CONFIG_SWIOTLB
> >>> diff --git a/arch/riscv/mm/init.c b/arch/riscv/mm/init.c index
> >>> 965a8cf4829c..1274e889d008 100644
> >>> --- a/arch/riscv/mm/init.c
> >>> +++ b/arch/riscv/mm/init.c
> >>> @@ -480,7 +480,11 @@ static void __init setup_vm_final(void)  #else
> >>> asmlinkage void __init setup_vm(uintptr_t dtb_pa)  {
> >>> +#if IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_USE_BUILTIN_DTB)
> >>> +	dtb_early_va = __dtb_start;
> >>> +#else
> >>>  	dtb_early_va = (void *)dtb_pa;
> >>> +#endif
> >>>  }
> >>>
> >>>  static inline void setup_vm_final(void)
> >
> 
> 
> --
> Damien Le Moal
> Western Digital Research


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Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-02-12 10:34 [PATCH 00/10] Kendryte k210 SoC boards support Damien Le Moal
2020-02-12 10:34 ` [PATCH 01/10] riscv: Fix gitignore Damien Le Moal
2020-02-20  0:15   ` Palmer Dabbelt
2020-02-12 10:34 ` [PATCH 02/10] riscv: Force flat memory model with no-mmu Damien Le Moal
2020-02-14 20:18   ` Sean Anderson
2020-02-15  2:15     ` Damien Le Moal
2020-02-15  2:26       ` Sean Anderson
2020-02-15  2:40         ` Damien Le Moal
2020-03-02  3:48   ` Anup Patel
2020-03-04 18:38   ` Palmer Dabbelt
2020-02-12 10:34 ` [PATCH 03/10] riscv: Unaligned load/store handling for M_MODE Damien Le Moal
2020-03-02  3:57   ` Anup Patel
2020-03-04 19:28   ` Palmer Dabbelt
2020-02-12 10:34 ` [PATCH 04/10] riscv: Add BUILTIN_DTB support Damien Le Moal
2020-03-02  3:58   ` Anup Patel
2020-03-04 19:28   ` Palmer Dabbelt
2020-03-05  4:58     ` Anup Patel
2020-03-05  5:14       ` Damien Le Moal
2020-03-05  5:37         ` Anup Patel [this message]
2020-03-05  6:13           ` Damien Le Moal
2020-03-08  6:10             ` Anup Patel
2020-03-05  8:18         ` Atish Patra
2020-03-07  0:02           ` Sean Anderson
2020-03-07  1:51             ` Atish Patra
2020-03-07  2:08               ` Sean Anderson
2020-03-06 23:56         ` Sean Anderson
2020-02-12 10:34 ` [PATCH 05/10] riscv: Add SOC early init support Damien Le Moal
2020-03-04 19:28   ` Palmer Dabbelt
2020-02-12 10:34 ` [PATCH 06/10] riscv: Add Kendryte K210 SoC support Damien Le Moal
2020-02-14 20:31   ` Sean Anderson
2020-03-04 19:38   ` Palmer Dabbelt
2020-02-12 10:34 ` [PATCH 07/10] riscv: Select required drivers for Kendryte SOC Damien Le Moal
2020-03-02  3:59   ` Anup Patel
2020-03-04 19:44   ` Palmer Dabbelt
2020-02-12 10:34 ` [PATCH 08/10] riscv: Add Kendryte K210 device tree Damien Le Moal
2020-02-14 20:51   ` Sean Anderson
2020-02-15  2:34     ` Damien Le Moal
2020-02-15  2:48       ` Sean Anderson
2020-02-15  3:00         ` Damien Le Moal
2020-02-18 14:12           ` Carlos Eduardo de Paula
2020-02-18 14:18             ` Sean Anderson
2020-02-18 14:30               ` Carlos Eduardo de Paula
2020-02-18 17:48                 ` Sean Anderson
2020-02-18 19:26                   ` Carlos Eduardo de Paula
2020-02-19  9:06                     ` Wladimir J. van der Laan
2020-02-19 22:28                       ` Sean Anderson
2020-02-20 10:48                         ` Wladimir J. van der Laan
2020-02-22 19:07                       ` Wladimir J. van der Laan
2020-04-01 17:55                         ` Drew Fustini
2020-04-02  2:24                           ` Damien Le Moal
2020-02-19  8:50                   ` Wladimir J. van der Laan
2020-02-27 19:43       ` Sean Anderson
2020-03-02  4:06   ` Anup Patel
2020-03-02  4:15     ` Damien Le Moal
2020-03-02  4:22       ` Anup Patel
2020-03-02  4:51         ` Damien Le Moal
2020-03-02  5:05           ` Anup Patel
2020-03-02  5:08             ` Damien Le Moal
2020-03-07  0:18               ` Sean Anderson
2020-03-07  4:11                 ` Anup Patel
2020-03-04 19:44   ` Palmer Dabbelt
2020-02-12 10:34 ` [PATCH 09/10] riscv: Kendryte K210 default config Damien Le Moal
2020-03-02  4:07   ` Anup Patel
2020-03-04 19:44   ` Palmer Dabbelt
2020-02-12 10:34 ` [PATCH 10/10] riscv: create a loader.bin for the kendryte kflash.py tool Damien Le Moal
2020-03-02  4:08   ` Anup Patel
2020-03-04 19:44   ` Palmer Dabbelt
2020-02-14 15:05 ` [PATCH 00/10] Kendryte k210 SoC boards support Carlos Eduardo de Paula
2020-02-15  2:02   ` Damien Le Moal
2020-02-17 13:28     ` Carlos Eduardo de Paula
2020-02-26 21:31       ` Carlos Eduardo de Paula
2020-02-27  2:18         ` Damien Le Moal
2020-02-28 20:32 ` Sean Anderson
2020-03-02  3:01   ` Damien Le Moal
2020-03-02  3:53     ` Sean Anderson
2020-03-02  4:11       ` Damien Le Moal
2020-03-02  4:18         ` Sean Anderson
2020-03-02  4:54           ` Damien Le Moal
2020-03-02  4:56             ` Sean Anderson
2020-03-02  5:03               ` Damien Le Moal
2020-03-02  4:17       ` Anup Patel
2020-03-02  4:21         ` Sean Anderson
2020-03-02  4:48         ` Damien Le Moal
2020-03-02  4:51           ` Damien Le Moal
2020-03-02  5:02           ` Sean Anderson
2020-03-02  5:11             ` Damien Le Moal
2020-03-02  5:25               ` Sean Anderson
2020-03-02  5:43                 ` Damien Le Moal
2020-03-04 19:44 ` Palmer Dabbelt

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