Linux-Trace-Users Archive on lore.kernel.org
 help / color / Atom feed
From: Milian Wolff <milian.wolff@kdab.com>
To: ahmadkhorrami <ahmadkhorrami@ut.ac.ir>
Cc: Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>,
	Linux-trace Users <linux-trace-users@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	linux-trace-users-owner@vger.kernel.org,
	Jin Yao <yao.jin@linux.intel.com>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: Wrong Perf Backtraces
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 17:29:17 +0200
Message-ID: <7774721.NyiUUSuA9g@agathebauer> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fe8e797932c0cb6d1b8db2ee9b991ed0@ut.ac.ir>


[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1260 bytes --]

On Dienstag, 31. März 2020 17:02:37 CEST ahmadkhorrami wrote:
> Hi Milian,
> Thanks for the detailed answer. Well, the bug you mentioned is bad news.
> Because I sample using uppp. Perhaps this leads to these weird traces.

Please read the full thread from here on:

https://lkml.org/lkml/2018/11/2/86

But as I said - it should be easy to check if this is really the issue are 
running into or not: Try to see if you see the problem when you sample without 
`ppp`. If not, then you can be pretty sure it's this issue. If you still see 
it, then it's something different.

> Is this a purely software bug?

I wouldn't call it that, personally. Rather, it's a limitation in the hardware 
and software. We would need something completely different to "fix" this, i.e. 
something like a deeper LBR. That's btw another alternative you could try: 
`perf record --call-graph lbr` and live with the short call stacks. But at 
least these should be correct (afaik). For me personally they are always far 
too short and thus not practical to use in reality.

Cheers

-- 
Milian Wolff | milian.wolff@kdab.com | Senior Software Engineer
KDAB (Deutschland) GmbH, a KDAB Group company
Tel: +49-30-521325470
KDAB - The Qt, C++ and OpenGL Experts

[-- Attachment #2: smime.p7s --]
[-- Type: application/pkcs7-signature, Size: 3826 bytes --]

  parent reply index

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <157597d74ff17f781d9de7e7e3defd13@ut.ac.ir>
2020-03-22 20:24 ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-03-23  0:34   ` Steven Rostedt
     [not found]     ` <21b3df4080709f193d62b159887e2a83@ut.ac.ir>
2020-03-23  8:49       ` Jiri Olsa
2020-03-23 10:03         ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-03-25 15:18           ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-03-25 15:46             ` Jiri Olsa
2020-03-25 18:54               ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-03-25 18:58               ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2020-03-25 19:10                 ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-03-25 19:28                   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2020-03-25 20:01                     ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-03-25 20:39                       ` Jiri Olsa
2020-03-25 21:02                         ` Jiri Olsa
2020-03-25 21:09                           ` Steven Rostedt
2020-03-25 21:37                             ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-03-25 21:46                               ` Jiri Olsa
2020-03-25 22:21                                 ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-03-25 23:09                                   ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-03-26  9:59                                     ` Jiri Olsa
2020-03-26 13:20                                       ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-03-26 15:39                                         ` Jiri Olsa
2020-03-26 18:19                                           ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-03-26 18:21                                             ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-03-27  9:20                                             ` Jiri Olsa
2020-03-27 10:59                                               ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-03-27 11:04                                                 ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-03-27 12:10                                                   ` Milian Wolff
2020-03-27 12:58                                                     ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-03-27 13:25                                                       ` Milian Wolff
2020-03-27 13:33                                                         ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-03-27 18:43                                                   ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-03-27 22:37                                                     ` Jiri Olsa
2020-03-27 23:12                                                       ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-03-28 23:34                                                         ` Jiri Olsa
2020-03-29  0:43                                                           ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-03-29  1:16                                                             ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-03-29 11:19                                                               ` Jiri Olsa
2020-03-29 11:52                                                                 ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-03-29 12:08                                                                   ` Jiri Olsa
2020-03-29 12:39                                                                     ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-03-29 13:50                                                                       ` Milian Wolff
2020-03-29 14:23                                                                         ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-03-29 19:20                                                                         ` Jiri Olsa
2020-03-30  6:09                                                                           ` Milian Wolff
2020-03-30 13:07                                                                             ` Jiri Olsa
2020-03-30 13:49                                                                               ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-03-30 19:05                                                                                 ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-03-30 21:05                                                                                   ` debuginfod-based dwarf downloading, was " Frank Ch. Eigler
2020-03-31  9:26                                                                                     ` Jiri Olsa
2020-03-31 14:00                                                                                       ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2020-03-31  4:43                                                                                   ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-03-31  9:30                                                                                     ` Jiri Olsa
2020-03-31 11:53                                                                                       ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-03-31 12:43                                                                                   ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-03-31 13:20                                                                                     ` Jiri Olsa
2020-03-31 13:39                                                                                       ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-03-31 14:44                                                                                         ` Milian Wolff
2020-03-31 15:02                                                                                           ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-03-31 15:05                                                                                             ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-03-31 15:29                                                                                             ` Milian Wolff [this message]
2020-03-31 16:10                                                                                               ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2020-03-31 19:20                                                                                                 ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-03-31 19:17                                                                                               ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-03-31 20:57                                                                                               ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-04-04  1:01                                                                                                 ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-04-11 16:42                                                                                                   ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-04-11 21:04                                                                                                     ` ahmadkhorrami

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=7774721.NyiUUSuA9g@agathebauer \
    --to=milian.wolff@kdab.com \
    --cc=acme@redhat.com \
    --cc=ahmadkhorrami@ut.ac.ir \
    --cc=ak@linux.intel.com \
    --cc=jolsa@redhat.com \
    --cc=linux-trace-users-owner@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-trace-users@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=namhyung@kernel.org \
    --cc=peterz@infradead.org \
    --cc=rostedt@goodmis.org \
    --cc=yao.jin@linux.intel.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link

Linux-Trace-Users Archive on lore.kernel.org

Archives are clonable:
	git clone --mirror https://lore.kernel.org/linux-trace-users/0 linux-trace-users/git/0.git

	# If you have public-inbox 1.1+ installed, you may
	# initialize and index your mirror using the following commands:
	public-inbox-init -V2 linux-trace-users linux-trace-users/ https://lore.kernel.org/linux-trace-users \
		linux-trace-users@vger.kernel.org
	public-inbox-index linux-trace-users

Example config snippet for mirrors

Newsgroup available over NNTP:
	nntp://nntp.lore.kernel.org/org.kernel.vger.linux-trace-users


AGPL code for this site: git clone https://public-inbox.org/public-inbox.git