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From: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
To: Chengguang Xu <cgxu519@mykernel.net>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	overlayfs <linux-unionfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v5 06/10] ovl: implement overlayfs' ->write_inode operation
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2021 13:35:55 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJfpegttQreuuD_jLgJmrYpsLKBBe2LmB5NSj6F5dHoTzqPArw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <17d268ba3ce.1199800543649.1713755891767595962@mykernel.net>

On Tue, 16 Nov 2021 at 03:20, Chengguang Xu <cgxu519@mykernel.net> wrote:
>
>  ---- 在 星期四, 2021-10-07 21:34:19 Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu> 撰写 ----
>  > On Thu, 7 Oct 2021 at 15:10, Chengguang Xu <cgxu519@mykernel.net> wrote:
>  > >  > However that wasn't what I was asking about.  AFAICS ->write_inode()
>  > >  > won't start write back for dirty pages.   Maybe I'm missing something,
>  > >  > but there it looks as if nothing will actually trigger writeback for
>  > >  > dirty pages in upper inode.
>  > >  >
>  > >
>  > > Actually, page writeback on upper inode will be triggered by overlayfs ->writepages and
>  > > overlayfs' ->writepages will be called by vfs writeback function (i.e writeback_sb_inodes).
>  >
>  > Right.
>  >
>  > But wouldn't it be simpler to do this from ->write_inode()?
>  >
>  > I.e. call write_inode_now() as suggested by Jan.
>  >
>  > Also could just call mark_inode_dirty() on the overlay inode
>  > regardless of the dirty flags on the upper inode since it shouldn't
>  > matter and results in simpler logic.
>  >
>
> Hi Miklos,
>
> Sorry for delayed response for this, I've been busy with another project.
>
> I agree with your suggesion above and further more how about just mark overlay inode dirty
> when it has upper inode? This approach will make marking dirtiness simple enough.

Are you suggesting that all non-lower overlay inodes should always be dirty?

The logic would be simple, no doubt, but there's the cost to walking
those overlay inodes which don't have a dirty upper inode, right?  Can
you quantify this cost with a benchmark?  Can be totally synthetic,
e.g. lookup a million upper files without modifying them, then call
syncfs.

Thanks,
Miklos

  reply	other threads:[~2021-11-16 12:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-23 13:08 [RFC PATCH v5 00/10] implement containerized syncfs for overlayfs Chengguang Xu
2021-09-23 13:08 ` [RFC PATCH v5 01/10] ovl: setup overlayfs' private bdi Chengguang Xu
2021-09-23 13:08 ` [RFC PATCH v5 02/10] ovl: implement ->writepages operation Chengguang Xu
2021-09-23 13:08 ` [RFC PATCH v5 03/10] ovl: implement overlayfs' ->evict_inode operation Chengguang Xu
2021-10-06 15:33   ` Miklos Szeredi
2021-10-07  6:08     ` Chengguang Xu
2021-10-07  7:43       ` Miklos Szeredi
2021-09-23 13:08 ` [RFC PATCH v5 04/10] ovl: mark overlayfs' inode dirty on modification Chengguang Xu
2021-10-07 18:43   ` Miklos Szeredi
2021-09-23 13:08 ` [RFC PATCH v5 05/10] ovl: mark overlayfs' inode dirty on shared mmap Chengguang Xu
2021-09-23 13:08 ` [RFC PATCH v5 06/10] ovl: implement overlayfs' ->write_inode operation Chengguang Xu
2021-10-07  9:01   ` Jan Kara
2021-10-07 12:26     ` Chengguang Xu
2021-10-07 14:41       ` Jan Kara
2021-10-07 14:54         ` Chengguang Xu
2021-10-07  9:23   ` Miklos Szeredi
2021-10-07 12:28     ` Chengguang Xu
2021-10-07 12:45       ` Miklos Szeredi
2021-10-07 13:09         ` Chengguang Xu
2021-10-07 13:34           ` Miklos Szeredi
2021-10-07 14:46             ` Jan Kara
2021-10-07 14:53               ` Chengguang Xu
2021-10-07 18:51                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2021-10-08 13:13                   ` Jan Kara
2021-11-16  2:20             ` Chengguang Xu
2021-11-16 12:35               ` Miklos Szeredi [this message]
2021-11-17  6:11                 ` Chengguang Xu
2021-11-18  6:32                   ` Chengguang Xu
2021-11-18 11:23                     ` Jan Kara
2021-11-18 12:02                       ` Chengguang Xu
2021-11-18 16:43                         ` Jan Kara
2021-11-19  6:12                           ` Chengguang Xu
2021-11-30 11:22                             ` Jan Kara
2021-11-30 16:09                               ` Chengguang Xu
2021-11-30 19:04                                 ` Amir Goldstein
2021-12-01  2:37                                   ` Chengguang Xu
2021-12-01  6:31                                     ` Chengguang Xu
2021-12-01  7:19                                       ` Amir Goldstein
2021-12-01 13:46                                         ` Jan Kara
2021-12-01 14:59                                           ` Chengguang Xu
2021-12-01 16:24                                           ` Chengguang Xu
2021-12-01 22:47                                             ` Amir Goldstein
2021-12-01 23:23                                               ` ovl_flush() behavior Amir Goldstein
2021-12-02  2:11                                                 ` Chengguang Xu
2021-12-02 15:20                                                   ` Vivek Goyal
2021-12-02 15:59                                                     ` Amir Goldstein
2021-12-02 22:00                                                       ` Vivek Goyal
2021-12-02 15:14                                                 ` Vivek Goyal
2021-12-05 14:06                                               ` [RFC PATCH v5 06/10] ovl: implement overlayfs' ->write_inode operation Chengguang Xu
2021-12-07  5:33                                                 ` Amir Goldstein
2022-02-05 16:09                                                   ` Chengguang Xu
2022-02-05 16:23                                                     ` Amir Goldstein
2021-09-23 13:08 ` [RFC PATCH v5 07/10] ovl: cache dirty overlayfs' inode Chengguang Xu
2021-10-07 11:09   ` Miklos Szeredi
2021-10-07 12:04     ` Chengguang Xu
2021-10-07 12:27       ` Miklos Szeredi
2021-09-23 13:08 ` [RFC PATCH v5 08/10] fs: export wait_sb_inodes() Chengguang Xu
2021-09-23 13:08 ` [RFC PATCH v5 09/10] fs: introduce new helper sync_fs_and_blockdev() Chengguang Xu
2021-10-19  7:15   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-11-15 11:39     ` Chengguang Xu
2021-09-23 13:08 ` [RFC PATCH v5 10/10] ovl: implement containerized syncfs for overlayfs Chengguang Xu

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