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From: Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>
To: Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>
Cc: Mahesh J Salgaonkar <mahesh@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	linuxppc-dev <linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org>,
	"Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Michal Suchanek <msuchanek@suse.com>,
	Ananth Narayan <ananth@in.ibm.com>,
	Laurent Dufour <ldufour@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 8/9] powerpc/mce: Add sysctl control for recovery action on MCE.
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2018 11:43:30 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180809114330.7cad9866@roar.ozlabs.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87o9ecaovz.fsf@concordia.ellerman.id.au>

On Thu, 09 Aug 2018 00:56:00 +1000
Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au> wrote:

> Mahesh J Salgaonkar <mahesh@linux.vnet.ibm.com> writes:
> > From: Mahesh Salgaonkar <mahesh@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
> >
> > Introduce recovery action for recovered memory errors (MCEs). There are
> > soft memory errors like SLB Multihit, which can be a result of a bad
> > hardware OR software BUG. Kernel can easily recover from these soft errors
> > by flushing SLB contents. After the recovery kernel can still continue to
> > function without any issue. But in some scenario's we may keep getting
> > these soft errors until the root cause is fixed. To be able to analyze and
> > find the root cause, best way is to gather enough data and system state at
> > the time of MCE. Hence this patch introduces a sysctl knob where user can
> > decide either to continue after recovery or panic the kernel to capture the
> > dump.  
> 
> I'm not convinced we want this.
> 
> As we've discovered it's often not possible to reconstruct what happened
> based on a dump anyway.
> 
> The key thing you need is the content of the SLB and that's not included
> in a dump.
> 
> So I think we should dump the SLB content when we get the MCE (which
> this series does) and any other useful info, and then if we can recover
> we should.

Yeah it's a lot of knobs that administrators can hardly be expected to
tune. Hypervisor or firmware should really eventually make the MCE
unrecoverable if we aren't making progress.

That said, x86 has a bunch of options, and for debugging a rare crash
or specialised installations it might be useful. But we should follow
the normal format, /proc/sys/kernel/panic_on_mce.

Thanks,
Nick

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-08-09  1:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-08-07 14:15 [PATCH v7 0/9] powerpc/pseries: Machine check handler improvements Mahesh J Salgaonkar
2018-08-07 14:16 ` [PATCH v7 1/9] powerpc/pseries: Avoid using the size greater than RTAS_ERROR_LOG_MAX Mahesh J Salgaonkar
2018-08-07 14:16 ` [PATCH v7 2/9] powerpc/pseries: Defer the logging of rtas error to irq work queue Mahesh J Salgaonkar
2018-08-07 14:16 ` [PATCH v7 3/9] powerpc/pseries: Fix endainness while restoring of r3 in MCE handler Mahesh J Salgaonkar
2018-08-13 11:23   ` [v7, " Michael Ellerman
2018-08-07 14:16 ` [PATCH v7 4/9] powerpc/pseries: Define MCE error event section Mahesh J Salgaonkar
2018-08-08 14:42   ` Michael Ellerman
2018-08-10 10:29     ` Mahesh Jagannath Salgaonkar
2018-08-16  4:14       ` Michael Ellerman
2018-08-16 14:44         ` Segher Boessenkool
2018-08-17 11:22         ` Mahesh Jagannath Salgaonkar
2018-08-07 14:17 ` [PATCH v7 5/9] powerpc/pseries: flush SLB contents on SLB MCE errors Mahesh J Salgaonkar
2018-08-07 16:54   ` Michal Suchánek
2018-08-10 10:30     ` Mahesh Jagannath Salgaonkar
2018-08-08  9:04   ` Nicholas Piggin
2018-08-10 10:30     ` Mahesh Jagannath Salgaonkar
2018-08-07 14:17 ` [PATCH v7 6/9] powerpc/pseries: Display machine check error details Mahesh J Salgaonkar
2018-08-07 14:17 ` [PATCH v7 7/9] powerpc/pseries: Dump the SLB contents on SLB MCE errors Mahesh J Salgaonkar
2018-08-09  1:05   ` Michael Ellerman
2018-08-10 10:32     ` Mahesh Jagannath Salgaonkar
2018-08-10 10:49       ` Mahesh Jagannath Salgaonkar
2018-08-11  4:33   ` Nicholas Piggin
2018-08-13  4:17     ` Mahesh Jagannath Salgaonkar
2018-08-13 14:27       ` Nicholas Piggin
2018-08-14 10:57         ` Mahesh Jagannath Salgaonkar
2018-08-14 12:47           ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2018-08-07 14:17 ` [PATCH v7 8/9] powerpc/mce: Add sysctl control for recovery action on MCE Mahesh J Salgaonkar
2018-08-08 14:56   ` Michael Ellerman
2018-08-08 15:37     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2018-08-08 16:09       ` Michal Suchánek
2018-08-10 11:04         ` Michael Ellerman
2018-08-09  6:34       ` Michael Ellerman
2018-08-09  8:02         ` Nicholas Piggin
2018-08-09  8:09           ` Ananth N Mavinakayanahalli
2018-08-09  8:33             ` Nicholas Piggin
2018-08-09 10:26               ` Michal Suchánek
2018-08-10  7:31                 ` Nicholas Piggin
2018-08-09  1:43     ` Nicholas Piggin [this message]
2018-08-07 14:18 ` [PATCH v7 9/9] powernv/pseries: consolidate code for mce early handling Mahesh J Salgaonkar

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