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From: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
To: Joe Lawrence <joe.lawrence@redhat.com>
Cc: Miroslav Benes <mbenes@suse.cz>,
	rostedt@goodmis.org, jikos@kernel.org, jpoimboe@redhat.com,
	mingo@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	live-patching@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] ftrace: Introduce PERMANENT ftrace_ops flag
Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2019 13:22:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191009112234.bi7lvp4pvmna26vz@pathway.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191008193534.GA16675@redhat.com>

On Tue 2019-10-08 15:35:34, Joe Lawrence wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 10:17:11AM +0200, Miroslav Benes wrote:
> > Livepatch uses ftrace for redirection to new patched functions. It is
> > thus directly affected by ftrace sysctl knobs such as ftrace_enabled.
> > Setting ftrace_enabled to 0 also disables all live patched functions. It
> > is not a problem per se, because only administrator can set sysctl
> > values, but it still may be surprising.
> > 
> > Introduce PERMANENT ftrace_ops flag to amend this. If the
> > FTRACE_OPS_FL_PERMANENT is set, the tracing of the function is not
> > disabled. Such ftrace_ops can still be unregistered in a standard way.
> > 
> > The patch set passes ftrace and livepatch kselftests.
> > 
> > Miroslav Benes (3):
> >   ftrace: Make test_rec_ops_needs_regs() generic
> >   ftrace: Introduce PERMANENT ftrace_ops flag
> >   livepatch: Use FTRACE_OPS_FL_PERMANENT
> > 
> >  Documentation/trace/ftrace-uses.rst |  6 ++++
> >  Documentation/trace/ftrace.rst      |  2 ++
> >  include/linux/ftrace.h              |  8 +++--
> >  kernel/livepatch/patch.c            |  3 +-
> >  kernel/trace/ftrace.c               | 47 ++++++++++++++++++++++++-----
> >  5 files changed, 55 insertions(+), 11 deletions(-)
> > 
> > -- 
> > 2.23.0
> > 
> 
> Hi Miroslav,
> 
> I wonder if the opposite would be more intuitive: when ftrace_enabled is
> not set, don't allow livepatches to register ftrace filters and
> likewise, don't allow ftrace_enabled to be unset if any livepatches are
> already registered.  I guess you could make an argument either way, but
> just offering another option.  Perhaps livepatches should follow similar
> behavior of other ftrace clients (like perf probes?)

I am not sure that I understand it correctly.

ftrace_enables is a global flag. My expectation is that it can be
manipulated at any time. But it should affect only ftrace handlers
without FTRACE_OPS_FL_PERMANENT flag.

By other words, the handlers with FTRACE_OPS_FL_PERMANENT flag and
only these handlers should ignore the global flag.

To be even more precise. If a function has registered more ftrace
handlers then the global ftrace_enable setting shold affect only
the handlers without the flag.

Is this the plan, please?

Best Regards,
Petr

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-10-09 11:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-07  8:17 [PATCH 0/3] ftrace: Introduce PERMANENT ftrace_ops flag Miroslav Benes
2019-10-07  8:17 ` [PATCH 1/3] ftrace: Make test_rec_ops_needs_regs() generic Miroslav Benes
2019-10-07  8:17 ` [PATCH 2/3] ftrace: Introduce PERMANENT ftrace_ops flag Miroslav Benes
2019-10-07  8:17 ` [PATCH 3/3] livepatch: Use FTRACE_OPS_FL_PERMANENT Miroslav Benes
2019-10-08 19:35 ` [PATCH 0/3] ftrace: Introduce PERMANENT ftrace_ops flag Joe Lawrence
2019-10-08 19:50   ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-09 10:33     ` Miroslav Benes
2019-10-09 11:22   ` Petr Mladek [this message]
2019-10-09 14:23     ` Joe Lawrence
2019-10-09 14:26     ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-10  8:50       ` Petr Mladek
2019-10-10 13:14         ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-10 13:38           ` Miroslav Benes
2019-10-10 13:43             ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-10 13:44               ` Steven Rostedt

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