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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>
To: Li Zhong <zhong@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com,
	toshi.kani@hp.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v5 2/2] Use kernfs_break_active_protection() for device online store callbacks
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 12:58:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <10378860.X4mJXjBVbJ@vostro.rjw.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1398229422.2805.49.camel@ThinkPad-T5421.cn.ibm.com>

On Wednesday, April 23, 2014 01:03:42 PM Li Zhong wrote:
> On Tue, 2014-04-22 at 16:44 -0400, Tejun Heo wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 11:34:39AM +0800, Li Zhong wrote:
> > > > Is this assumption true?  If so, can we add lockdep assertions in
> > > > places to verify and enforce this?  If not, aren't we just feeling
> > > > good when the reality is broken?
> > > 
> > > It seems not true ... I think there are devices that don't have the
> > > online/offline concept, we just need to add it, remove it, like ethernet
> > > cards. 
> > > 
> > > Maybe we could change the comments above, like:
> > > 	/* We assume device_hotplug_lock must be acquired before 
> > > 	 * removing devices, which have online/offline sysfs knob, 
> > > 	 * and some locks are needed to serialize the online/offline
> > > 	 * callbacks and device removing. ...
> > > ? 
> > > 
> > > And we could add lockdep assertions in cpu and memory related code? e.g.
> > > remove_memory(), unregister_cpu()
> > > 
> > > Currently, remove_memory() has comments for the function:
> > > 
> > >  * NOTE: The caller must call lock_device_hotplug() to serialize hotplug
> > >  * and online/offline operations before this call, as required by
> > >  * try_offline_node().
> > >  */
> > >     
> > > maybe it could be removed with the lockdep assertion.
> > 
> > I'm confused about the overall locking scheme.  What's the role of
> > device_hotplug_lock?  Is that solely to prevent the sysfs deadlock
> > issue?  Or does it serve other synchronization purposes depending on
> > the specific subsystem?  If the former, the lock no longer needs to
> > exist.  The only thing necessary would be synchronization between
> > device_del() deleting the sysfs file and the unbreak helper invoking
> > device-specific callback.  If the latter, we probably should change
> > that.  Sharing hotplug lock across multiple subsystems through driver
> > core sounds like a pretty bad idea.
> 
> I think it's the latter.

Actually, no, this is not the case if I understand you correctly.

> I think device_{on|off}line is better to be
> done in some sort of lock which prevents the device from being removed,
> including some preparation work that needs be done before device_del().

Quite frankly, you should be confident that you understand the code you're
trying to modify or please don't touch it.

I'll have a deeper look at this issue later today or tomorrow and will get
back to you then.

Thanks!

-- 
I speak only for myself.
Rafael J. Wysocki, Intel Open Source Technology Center.

  reply	other threads:[~2014-04-23 10:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-04-10  9:18 [RFC PATCH] Suppress a device hot remove related lockdep warning Li Zhong
2014-04-10 13:31 ` Tejun Heo
2014-04-11  4:10   ` [RFC PATCH v2] Use kernfs_break_active_protection() for device online store callbacks Li Zhong
2014-04-11 10:26     ` Tejun Heo
2014-04-14  7:47       ` [RFC PATCH v3] " Li Zhong
2014-04-14 20:13         ` Tejun Heo
2014-04-15  2:44           ` Li Zhong
2014-04-15 14:50             ` Tejun Heo
2014-04-16  1:41               ` Li Zhong
2014-04-16 15:17                 ` Tejun Heo
2014-04-17  3:05                   ` Li Zhong
2014-04-17 15:06                     ` Tejun Heo
2014-04-17  6:50                   ` [RFC PATCH v4] " Li Zhong
2014-04-17 15:17                     ` Tejun Heo
2014-04-18  8:33                       ` Li Zhong
2014-04-21  9:20                       ` [RFC PATCH v5 1/2] Use lock_device_hotplug() in cpu_probe_store() and cpu_release_store() Li Zhong
2014-04-21  9:23                         ` [RFC PATCH v5 2/2] Use kernfs_break_active_protection() for device online store callbacks Li Zhong
2014-04-21 22:46                           ` Tejun Heo
2014-04-22  3:34                             ` Li Zhong
2014-04-22 10:11                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-04-23  1:50                                 ` Li Zhong
2014-04-23 10:54                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-04-24  1:13                                     ` Li Zhong
2014-04-22 20:44                               ` Tejun Heo
2014-04-22 22:21                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-04-23 14:23                                   ` Tejun Heo
2014-04-23 16:12                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-04-23 16:52                                       ` Tejun Heo
2014-04-24  8:59                                       ` Li Zhong
2014-04-24 10:02                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-04-25  1:46                                           ` Li Zhong
2014-04-25 12:47                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-04-28  1:49                                               ` Li Zhong
2014-04-23  5:03                                 ` Li Zhong
2014-04-23 10:58                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2014-04-24  1:33                                     ` Li Zhong
2014-05-09  8:35                               ` Li Zhong
2014-05-09  8:40                                 ` [RFC PATCH v6 1/2 ] Use lock_device_hotplug() in cpu_probe_store() and cpu_release_store() Li Zhong
2014-05-09  8:40                                   ` [RFC PATCH v6 2/2] Implement lock_device_hotplug_sysfs() by breaking active protection Li Zhong
2014-04-21 22:38                         ` [RFC PATCH v5 1/2] Use lock_device_hotplug() in cpu_probe_store() and cpu_release_store() Tejun Heo
2014-04-22  2:29                           ` Li Zhong
2014-04-22 20:40                             ` Tejun Heo
2014-04-23  2:00                               ` Li Zhong
2014-04-23 14:39                                 ` Tejun Heo
2014-04-24  8:37                                   ` Li Zhong
2014-04-24 14:32                                     ` Tejun Heo
2014-04-25  1:56                                       ` Li Zhong
2014-04-25 12:28                                         ` Tejun Heo
2014-04-28  0:51                                           ` Li Zhong

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