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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: Li Zhong <zhong@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, toshi.kani@hp.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v5 2/2] Use kernfs_break_active_protection() for device online store callbacks
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 18:12:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5357E651.2040400@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140423142346.GB4781@htj.dyndns.org>

On 4/23/2014 4:23 PM, Tejun Heo wrote:
> Hello, Rafael.

Hi,

> On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 12:21:33AM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
>> Can you please elaborate a bit?
> Because it can get involved in larger locking dependency issues by
> joining dependency graphs of two otherwise largely disjoint
> subsystems.  It has potential to create possible deadlocks which don't
> need to exist.

Well, I do my best not to add unnecessary locks if that's what you mean.

>> It is there to protect hotplug operations involving multiple devices
>> (in different subsystems) from racing with each other.  Why exactly
>> is it bad?
> But why would different subsystems, say cpu and memory, use the same
> lock?  Wouldn't those subsystems already have proper locking inside
> their own subsystems?

That locking is not sufficient.

> Why add this additional global lock across multiple subsystems?

That basically is because of how eject works when it is triggered via ACPI.

It is signaled for a device at the top of a subtree.  It may be a 
container of some sort and the eject involves everything below that 
device in the ACPI namespace.  That may involve multiple subsystem 
(CPUs, memory, PCI host bridge, etc.).

We do that in two steps, offline (which can fail) and eject proper 
(which can't fail and makes all of the involved devices go away). All 
that has to be done in one go with respect to the sysfs-triggered 
offline/online and that's why the lock is there.

Thanks,
Rafael


  reply	other threads:[~2014-04-23 16:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-04-10  9:18 [RFC PATCH] Suppress a device hot remove related lockdep warning Li Zhong
2014-04-10 13:31 ` Tejun Heo
2014-04-11  4:10   ` [RFC PATCH v2] Use kernfs_break_active_protection() for device online store callbacks Li Zhong
2014-04-11 10:26     ` Tejun Heo
2014-04-14  7:47       ` [RFC PATCH v3] " Li Zhong
2014-04-14 20:13         ` Tejun Heo
2014-04-15  2:44           ` Li Zhong
2014-04-15 14:50             ` Tejun Heo
2014-04-16  1:41               ` Li Zhong
2014-04-16 15:17                 ` Tejun Heo
2014-04-17  3:05                   ` Li Zhong
2014-04-17 15:06                     ` Tejun Heo
2014-04-17  6:50                   ` [RFC PATCH v4] " Li Zhong
2014-04-17 15:17                     ` Tejun Heo
2014-04-18  8:33                       ` Li Zhong
2014-04-21  9:20                       ` [RFC PATCH v5 1/2] Use lock_device_hotplug() in cpu_probe_store() and cpu_release_store() Li Zhong
2014-04-21  9:23                         ` [RFC PATCH v5 2/2] Use kernfs_break_active_protection() for device online store callbacks Li Zhong
2014-04-21 22:46                           ` Tejun Heo
2014-04-22  3:34                             ` Li Zhong
2014-04-22 10:11                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-04-23  1:50                                 ` Li Zhong
2014-04-23 10:54                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-04-24  1:13                                     ` Li Zhong
2014-04-22 20:44                               ` Tejun Heo
2014-04-22 22:21                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-04-23 14:23                                   ` Tejun Heo
2014-04-23 16:12                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2014-04-23 16:52                                       ` Tejun Heo
2014-04-24  8:59                                       ` Li Zhong
2014-04-24 10:02                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-04-25  1:46                                           ` Li Zhong
2014-04-25 12:47                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-04-28  1:49                                               ` Li Zhong
2014-04-23  5:03                                 ` Li Zhong
2014-04-23 10:58                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-04-24  1:33                                     ` Li Zhong
2014-05-09  8:35                               ` Li Zhong
2014-05-09  8:40                                 ` [RFC PATCH v6 1/2 ] Use lock_device_hotplug() in cpu_probe_store() and cpu_release_store() Li Zhong
2014-05-09  8:40                                   ` [RFC PATCH v6 2/2] Implement lock_device_hotplug_sysfs() by breaking active protection Li Zhong
2014-04-21 22:38                         ` [RFC PATCH v5 1/2] Use lock_device_hotplug() in cpu_probe_store() and cpu_release_store() Tejun Heo
2014-04-22  2:29                           ` Li Zhong
2014-04-22 20:40                             ` Tejun Heo
2014-04-23  2:00                               ` Li Zhong
2014-04-23 14:39                                 ` Tejun Heo
2014-04-24  8:37                                   ` Li Zhong
2014-04-24 14:32                                     ` Tejun Heo
2014-04-25  1:56                                       ` Li Zhong
2014-04-25 12:28                                         ` Tejun Heo
2014-04-28  0:51                                           ` Li Zhong

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