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From: Robert Love <rml@ximian.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Cc: Andries Brouwer <aebr@win.tue.nl>, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
	Andrey Borzenkov <arvidjaar@mail.ru>,
	linux-hotplug-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: removable media revalidation - udev vs. devfs or static /dev
Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2004 19:28:47 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1073608126.1228.16.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0401071941390.2131@home.osdl.org>

On Wed, 2004-01-07 at 22:43, Linus Torvalds wrote:

> Yes. We _could_ do that, by just making a "we noticed the disk change" be
> a hotplug event. However, I'm loath to do that, because some devices
> literally don't even have an easily read disk change signal, so what they
> do is

I like the idea of a hotplug event on media change (basically, a hotplug
event for partitions).  And, in fact, I am loath not to do it.

The current direction with the kernel and udev is letting us move _away_
from polling.  Projects such as HAL are helping to finally integrate
hardware management throughout the system.  But HAL is going to be very
confused by some of the alternative solutions for partitions: requiring
that all of the partition device nodes preexist is going to really
complicate things, and I really do not want to have to poll on all of
them in order for HAL to have an idea of what partitions are valid.

But I hear you loud and clear about dumb devices that cannot detect
media change.  They pose a problem.

I want a proper solution, too... ideas?

	Robert Love



  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-01-09  0:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-01-01 20:33 removable media revalidation - udev vs. devfs or static /dev Andrey Borzenkov
2004-01-03  5:58 ` Greg KH
2004-01-03  8:51   ` Andrey Borzenkov
2004-01-03 12:37     ` Andries Brouwer
2004-01-03 12:42       ` Olaf Hering
2004-01-03 16:05         ` Andrey Borzenkov
2004-01-03 17:54           ` Jens Axboe
2004-01-07  9:43             ` Olaf Hering
2004-01-07  9:50               ` Jens Axboe
2004-01-07  9:56                 ` Olaf Hering
2004-01-07  9:59                   ` Jens Axboe
2004-01-07 10:25                     ` Olaf Hering
2004-01-07 10:31                       ` Jens Axboe
2004-01-07 10:47                         ` Andrey Borzenkov
2004-01-07 10:54                           ` Jens Axboe
2004-01-07 17:56                       ` Greg KH
2004-01-30 12:59                     ` Olaf Hering
2004-01-07 11:00                 ` Andrey Borzenkov
2004-01-07 11:05                   ` Jens Axboe
2004-01-07 11:14                     ` Andrey Borzenkov
2004-01-07 11:16                       ` Jens Axboe
2004-01-03 20:51     ` Greg KH
2004-01-07 18:38   ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-07 18:57     ` Greg KH
2004-01-07 19:23       ` Mika Penttilä
2004-01-07 19:24         ` Greg KH
2004-01-07 19:31           ` Mika Penttilä
2004-01-08  1:38           ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-07 19:31       ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-07 19:50         ` Greg KH
2004-01-07 20:25           ` Richard Troth
2004-01-07 20:38             ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-01-07 23:34             ` Greg KH
2004-01-08  0:32           ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-01-08  0:41             ` Greg KH
2004-01-08  1:07               ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-01-08  1:15                 ` Greg KH
2004-01-08  1:50                   ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-01-08 18:34                   ` Martin Schlemmer
2004-01-08  1:48           ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-08 14:06           ` "Andrey Borzenkov" 
2004-01-08  0:42         ` viro
2004-01-08  1:16           ` Greg KH
2004-01-09  3:36       ` Joel Becker
2004-01-09  9:49         ` Gerd Knorr
2004-01-12 17:16           ` Joel Becker
2004-01-12 23:08             ` J.A. Magallon
2004-01-07 20:52     ` Olaf Hering
2004-01-08  2:03       ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-08  4:16         ` Gene Heskett
2004-01-08  4:23           ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-08  7:45         ` Olaf Hering
2004-01-08  2:13     ` Andries Brouwer
2004-01-08  2:19       ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-08  2:49         ` Andries Brouwer
2004-01-08  2:56           ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-08  3:35             ` Andries Brouwer
2004-01-08  3:43               ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-08  8:00                 ` Xavier Bestel
2004-01-09  0:28                 ` Robert Love [this message]
2004-01-09  0:52                   ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-09  1:16                   ` Matt Mackall
2004-01-08 10:32             `  Éric Brunet
2004-01-08  5:19 Iqbal
2004-01-12  9:09 Ling, Xiaofeng
2004-01-12 13:02 Nicolas Mailhot

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