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From: Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>
To: Olaf Hering <olh@suse.de>
Cc: Andrey Borzenkov <arvidjaar@mail.ru>,
	Andries Brouwer <aebr@win.tue.nl>, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
	linux-hotplug-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: removable media revalidation - udev vs. devfs or static /dev
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 10:50:29 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040107095029.GX3483@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040107094321.GC21059@suse.de>

On Wed, Jan 07 2004, Olaf Hering wrote:
>  On Sat, Jan 03, Jens Axboe wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, Jan 03 2004, Andrey Borzenkov wrote:
> > > > Is there really no way to get a media change notification from ZIP or
> > > > JAZ drives?
> > > 
> > > If anyone knows please tell me - I will put it into supermount ...
> > > 
> > > AFAIK in case of SCSI this is impossible simply by virtue of protocol - SCSI 
> > > device is not initiator. So you need something to poll device for status. 
> > > That is usually done on device open except in this case you can't open 
> > > because you do not yet have handle.
> > 
> > You could queue a media notification request for long periods of time,
> > being completed by the drive when a media change happens. At least mmc
> > allows for this, doubt anyone has ever done it.
> > 
> > So yeah, poll...
> 
> Poll how? "kmediachangethread"? Or polling in userland? The latter would
> (probably) lead to endless IO errors. Not very good.

No need to put it in the kernel, user space fits the bil nicely. I don't
see how this would lead to IO errors?

> If I understand the Darwin sources correctly, a polling is used. But I
> havent looked hard how they do it.

It's the only way to do it.

-- 
Jens Axboe


  reply	other threads:[~2004-01-07  9:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-01-01 20:33 removable media revalidation - udev vs. devfs or static /dev Andrey Borzenkov
2004-01-03  5:58 ` Greg KH
2004-01-03  8:51   ` Andrey Borzenkov
2004-01-03 12:37     ` Andries Brouwer
2004-01-03 12:42       ` Olaf Hering
2004-01-03 16:05         ` Andrey Borzenkov
2004-01-03 17:54           ` Jens Axboe
2004-01-07  9:43             ` Olaf Hering
2004-01-07  9:50               ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2004-01-07  9:56                 ` Olaf Hering
2004-01-07  9:59                   ` Jens Axboe
2004-01-07 10:25                     ` Olaf Hering
2004-01-07 10:31                       ` Jens Axboe
2004-01-07 10:47                         ` Andrey Borzenkov
2004-01-07 10:54                           ` Jens Axboe
2004-01-07 17:56                       ` Greg KH
2004-01-30 12:59                     ` Olaf Hering
2004-01-07 11:00                 ` Andrey Borzenkov
2004-01-07 11:05                   ` Jens Axboe
2004-01-07 11:14                     ` Andrey Borzenkov
2004-01-07 11:16                       ` Jens Axboe
2004-01-03 20:51     ` Greg KH
2004-01-07 18:38   ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-07 18:57     ` Greg KH
2004-01-07 19:23       ` Mika Penttilä
2004-01-07 19:24         ` Greg KH
2004-01-07 19:31           ` Mika Penttilä
2004-01-08  1:38           ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-07 19:31       ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-07 19:50         ` Greg KH
2004-01-07 20:25           ` Richard Troth
2004-01-07 20:38             ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-01-07 23:34             ` Greg KH
2004-01-08  0:32           ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-01-08  0:41             ` Greg KH
2004-01-08  1:07               ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-01-08  1:15                 ` Greg KH
2004-01-08  1:50                   ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-01-08 18:34                   ` Martin Schlemmer
2004-01-08  1:48           ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-08 14:06           ` "Andrey Borzenkov" 
2004-01-08  0:42         ` viro
2004-01-08  1:16           ` Greg KH
2004-01-09  3:36       ` Joel Becker
2004-01-09  9:49         ` Gerd Knorr
2004-01-12 17:16           ` Joel Becker
2004-01-12 23:08             ` J.A. Magallon
2004-01-07 20:52     ` Olaf Hering
2004-01-08  2:03       ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-08  4:16         ` Gene Heskett
2004-01-08  4:23           ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-08  7:45         ` Olaf Hering
2004-01-08  2:13     ` Andries Brouwer
2004-01-08  2:19       ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-08  2:49         ` Andries Brouwer
2004-01-08  2:56           ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-08  3:35             ` Andries Brouwer
2004-01-08  3:43               ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-08  8:00                 ` Xavier Bestel
2004-01-09  0:28                 ` Robert Love
2004-01-09  0:52                   ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-09  1:16                   ` Matt Mackall
2004-01-08 10:32             `  Éric Brunet
2004-01-08  5:19 Iqbal
2004-01-12  9:09 Ling, Xiaofeng
2004-01-12 13:02 Nicolas Mailhot

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