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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Edjard Souza Mota <edjard@gmail.com>
Cc: Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo.tosatti@cyclades.com>,
	Mauricio Lin <mauriciolin@gmail.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>, Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
Subject: Re: User space out of memory approach
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 10:30:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1105435846.17853.85.camel@tglx.tec.linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4d6522b905011101202918f361@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, 2005-01-11 at 11:20 +0200, Edjard Souza Mota wrote:
> > You are definitely curing the symptom instead of the cause.
> > 
> > > 1) ranking for the most likely culprits only starts when memory consumption
> > >     gets close to the red zone (for example 98% or something like that).

We do the ranking only in the oom situation, so what's your point ?

> > > 2) killing just gets the first candidate from the list and kills it.
> > > No need to calculate
> > >     at kernel level.

So I need a userspace change in order to solve a kernel problem ?

> > What is the default behaviour when no userspace settings are available -
> > Nothing ? Are you really expecting that we change every root fs in order
> > to be able to upgrade the kernel for solving this _kernel_ problem ?
> 
> No, I certainly don't. But, have seen the application we also posted? It is
> a test for while, that actually starts a deamon when you boot the kernel
> and does rate this application, i.e. an application with root rating priority
> so it will never be killed and never lack space for itself. 
> So, the answer to your 2nd very good point.

You did not answer my question at all. I do not want to update my rootfs
to solve a problem which exists in the kernel and must be solved in the
kernel.

tglx



  reply	other threads:[~2005-01-11  9:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-01-10 21:43 User space out of memory approach Mauricio Lin
2005-01-10 19:20 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-01-10 19:39   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-01-10 23:01     ` Mauricio Lin
2005-01-10 22:40   ` Edjard Souza Mota
2005-01-10 20:05     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-01-10 23:17       ` Edjard Souza Mota
2005-01-10 23:18         ` Edjard Souza Mota
2005-01-10 23:24       ` Mauricio Lin
2005-01-10 23:30         ` Mauricio Lin
2005-01-11  7:47         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-01-11  0:35       ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-11  2:03         ` Edjard Souza Mota
2005-01-11  8:44           ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-11  8:58             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-11  7:48               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-01-11  9:08               ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-11  9:19                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-11  9:27                   ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-11  9:20             ` Edjard Souza Mota
2005-01-11  9:30               ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2005-01-11  9:56                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-11 10:05                   ` Edjard Souza Mota
2005-01-11 10:39                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-11 10:44                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-11 14:56                       ` Edjard Souza Mota
2005-01-11 15:27                       ` Ilias Biris
2005-01-11 10:00                 ` Edjard Souza Mota
2005-01-11 10:36                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-11 16:32             ` Alan Cox
2005-01-11 19:16               ` Ilias Biris
2005-01-11 20:46                 ` Ilias Biris
2005-01-11 20:57                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-12  9:31                     ` Edjard Souza Mota
2005-01-12 11:19                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-12 12:12                         ` Edjard Souza Mota
2005-01-13 15:36                   ` Alan Cox
2005-01-16 10:06                     ` Edjard Souza Mota
2005-01-16 21:10                       ` Alan Cox
2005-01-17 10:16                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-11 21:35                 ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-01-11 20:40               ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-11  7:42         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-01-11 10:51           ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-11 11:03             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-11  8:38         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-21 21:27           ` Mauricio Lin
2005-01-21 21:45             ` Mauricio Lin
2005-01-22  3:32               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-25 21:13                 ` Mauricio Lin
2005-01-25 21:39                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-26  0:11                     ` Mauricio Lin
2005-01-26  0:49                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-26 14:03                         ` Mauricio Lin
2005-01-27 18:54                         ` Mauricio Lin
2005-01-27 22:11                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-27 22:29                             ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-27 22:58                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-27 23:35                                 ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-28  0:15                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-28 13:58                             ` Mauricio Lin
2005-01-28 15:21                               ` Mauricio Lin
2005-01-28 15:29                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-26  7:26                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-22  3:04             ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found] <fa.lcmt90h.1j1scpn@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.ht4gei4.1g5odia@ifi.uio.no>
2005-01-16 16:28   ` Bodo Eggert
2005-01-18 13:15     ` Edjard Souza Mota
2005-01-19  6:18       ` Bodo Eggert
2005-01-20  3:20         ` Edjard Souza Mota
2005-01-20  5:00           ` Bodo Eggert

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