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From: Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo.tosatti@cyclades.com>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: Edjard Souza Mota <edjard@gmail.com>,
	Mauricio Lin <mauriciolin@gmail.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>, Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
Subject: Re: User space out of memory approach
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 05:42:30 -0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050111074230.GB18796@logos.cnet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1105403747.17853.48.camel@tglx.tec.linutronix.de>

On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 01:35:47AM +0100, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Mon, 2005-01-10 at 18:05 -0200, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> > The feature is interesting - several similar patches have been around with similar
> > functionality (people who need usually write their own, I've seen a few), but none 
> > has ever been merged, even though it is an important requirement for many users.
> 
> It's not a requirement for users. The current implementation in the
> kernel it's just broken, ugly code.
> 
> > This is simple, an ordered list of candidate PIDs. IMO something similar to this 
> > should be merged. Andrew ?
> 
> I have no objections against the userspace provided candidate list
> option, but as long as the main sources of trouble 
> 
> 	- invocation
> 	- reentrancy
> 	- timed, counted, blah ugly protection
> 	- selection problem
> 
> are not fixed properly, we don't need to discuss the inclusion of a
> userspace provided candidate list.
> 
> Postpone this until the main problem is fixed. There is a proper
> confirmed fix for this available. It was posted more than once.

Agreed - haven't you and Andrea fixed those recently ?

> Merging a fix which helps only 0,001 % of the users to hide the mess
> instead of fixing the real problem is a real interesting engineering
> aproach.
> 
> I don't deny, that after the source of trouble is fixed it is worth to
> think about the merging of this addon to allow interested users to
> define the culprits instead of relying on an always imperfect selection
> algorithm.

Yep.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-01-11 10:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-01-10 21:43 User space out of memory approach Mauricio Lin
2005-01-10 19:20 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-01-10 19:39   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-01-10 23:01     ` Mauricio Lin
2005-01-10 22:40   ` Edjard Souza Mota
2005-01-10 20:05     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-01-10 23:17       ` Edjard Souza Mota
2005-01-10 23:18         ` Edjard Souza Mota
2005-01-10 23:24       ` Mauricio Lin
2005-01-10 23:30         ` Mauricio Lin
2005-01-11  7:47         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-01-11  0:35       ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-11  2:03         ` Edjard Souza Mota
2005-01-11  8:44           ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-11  8:58             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-11  7:48               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-01-11  9:08               ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-11  9:19                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-11  9:27                   ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-11  9:20             ` Edjard Souza Mota
2005-01-11  9:30               ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-11  9:56                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-11 10:05                   ` Edjard Souza Mota
2005-01-11 10:39                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-11 10:44                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-11 14:56                       ` Edjard Souza Mota
2005-01-11 15:27                       ` Ilias Biris
2005-01-11 10:00                 ` Edjard Souza Mota
2005-01-11 10:36                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-11 16:32             ` Alan Cox
2005-01-11 19:16               ` Ilias Biris
2005-01-11 20:46                 ` Ilias Biris
2005-01-11 20:57                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-12  9:31                     ` Edjard Souza Mota
2005-01-12 11:19                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-12 12:12                         ` Edjard Souza Mota
2005-01-13 15:36                   ` Alan Cox
2005-01-16 10:06                     ` Edjard Souza Mota
2005-01-16 21:10                       ` Alan Cox
2005-01-17 10:16                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-11 21:35                 ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-01-11 20:40               ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-11  7:42         ` Marcelo Tosatti [this message]
2005-01-11 10:51           ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-11 11:03             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-11  8:38         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-21 21:27           ` Mauricio Lin
2005-01-21 21:45             ` Mauricio Lin
2005-01-22  3:32               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-25 21:13                 ` Mauricio Lin
2005-01-25 21:39                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-26  0:11                     ` Mauricio Lin
2005-01-26  0:49                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-26 14:03                         ` Mauricio Lin
2005-01-27 18:54                         ` Mauricio Lin
2005-01-27 22:11                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-27 22:29                             ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-27 22:58                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-27 23:35                                 ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-28  0:15                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-28 13:58                             ` Mauricio Lin
2005-01-28 15:21                               ` Mauricio Lin
2005-01-28 15:29                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-26  7:26                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-22  3:04             ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found] <fa.lcmt90h.1j1scpn@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.ht4gei4.1g5odia@ifi.uio.no>
2005-01-16 16:28   ` Bodo Eggert
2005-01-18 13:15     ` Edjard Souza Mota
2005-01-19  6:18       ` Bodo Eggert
2005-01-20  3:20         ` Edjard Souza Mota
2005-01-20  5:00           ` Bodo Eggert

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