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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>,
	nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au, Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>,
	davem@davemloft.net, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
	Linux Kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] page table iterators
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 18:09:43 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1108969783.5411.6.camel@gaston> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050220224022.5b5c4a09.akpm@osdl.org>

On Sun, 2005-02-20 at 22:40 -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com> wrote:
> >
> > My opinion FWIW: I'm all for regularizing the pagetable loops to
> >  work the same way, changing their variables to use the same names,
> >  improving their efficiency; but I do like to see what a loop is up to.
> > 
> >  list_for_each and friends are very widely used, they're fine, and I'm
> >  quite glad to have their prefetching hidden away from me; but usually
> >  I groan, grin and bear it, each time someone devises a clever new
> >  for_each macro concealing half the details of some specialist loop.
> > 
> >  In a minority?
> 
> Of two.

Well, we basically have that bunch of loops that all do the same thing
to iterate the page tables. Only the inner part is different (that is
what is done on each PTE).

All of them are slightly differently implemented, some check overflow,
some don't, some have redudant checking, some aren't even consistent
between all 3/4 loops of a given walk routine set, and we have seen the
tendency to introduce subtle bugs in one of them when they all have to
be changed for some reason.

I'm all for turning them into something more consistent, and I like the
for_each_* idea...

It also allows to completely remove the code of the unused levels on 2
and 3 level page tables easily, regaining some of the perfs lost by the
move to 4 levels.

Now, we also need, in the long run, to improve perfs of walking the page
tables, especially PTEs, for things like tearing down processes or fork,
for example via a bitmap of used PGD entries etc... 

With proper iterators, such a thing could be implemented just by
modifying the iterator, and all loops would benefit from it.

I think that is enough to justify the move.

Ben.



  reply	other threads:[~2005-02-21  7:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-02-17 13:53 [PATCH 1/2] optimise copy page range Nick Piggin
2005-02-17 14:03 ` [PATCH 2/2] page table iterators Nick Piggin
2005-02-17 15:56   ` Linus Torvalds
2005-02-17 16:13     ` Nick Piggin
2005-02-17 19:43   ` Andi Kleen
2005-02-17 22:49     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-02-17 23:03       ` Andi Kleen
2005-02-17 23:21         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-02-17 23:34           ` Andi Kleen
2005-02-17 23:30         ` David S. Miller
2005-02-17 23:57           ` Andi Kleen
2005-02-20 12:35             ` Nick Piggin
2005-02-21  6:35               ` Hugh Dickins
2005-02-21  6:40                 ` Andrew Morton
2005-02-21  7:09                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2005-02-21  8:09                     ` Nick Piggin
2005-02-21  9:04                       ` Nick Piggin
2005-02-22  9:54                 ` Nick Piggin
2005-02-23  2:06                   ` Hugh Dickins
2005-02-23  4:31                     ` David S. Miller
2005-02-23  4:49                       ` Nick Piggin
2005-02-23  4:57                         ` David S. Miller
2005-02-23  5:23                       ` Nick Piggin
2005-02-23 23:52                     ` Nick Piggin
2005-02-24  0:00                       ` David S. Miller
2005-02-24  5:12                       ` Hugh Dickins
2005-02-24  5:59                         ` Nick Piggin
2005-02-24 11:58                           ` Hugh Dickins
2005-02-24 19:33                             ` David S. Miller
2005-02-25 10:44                               ` Andi Kleen
2005-02-24 21:59                             ` Nick Piggin
2005-02-24 22:32                               ` Hugh Dickins
2005-02-24 22:52                                 ` Nick Piggin

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