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From: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
To: hadi@cyberus.ca
Cc: James Courtier-Dutton <James@superbug.co.uk>,
	Mitchell Blank Jr <mitch@sfgoth.com>,
	Jesper Juhl <jesper.juhl@gmail.com>,
	Sridhar Samudrala <sri@us.ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/3] TCP/IP Critical socket communication mechanism
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 14:07:50 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1134652070.16486.44.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1134651635.5912.108.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Thu, 2005-12-15 at 08:00 -0500, jamal wrote:
> On Thu, 2005-15-12 at 12:47 +0100, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> > > 
> > > You are using the wrong hammer to crack your nut.
> > > You should instead approach your problem of why the ARP entry gets lost.
> > > For example, you could give as critical priority to your TCP session, 
> > > but that still won't cure your ARP problem.
> > > I would suggest that the best way to cure your arp problem, is to 
> > > increase the time between arp cache refreshes.
> > 
> > or turn it around entirely: all traffic is considered important
> > unless... and have a bunch of non-critical sockets (like http requests)
> > be marked non-critical.
> 
> The big hole punched by DaveM is that of dependencies: a http tcp
> connection is tied to ICMP or the IPSEC example given; so you need a lot
> more intelligence than just what your app is knowledgeable about at its
> level. 

yeah well sort of. You're right of course, but that also doesn't mean
you can't give hints from the other side. Like "data for this socked is
NOT critical important". It gets tricky if you only do it for OOM stuff;
because then that one ACK packet could cause a LOT of memory to be
freed, and as such can be important for the system even if the socket
isn't.



  reply	other threads:[~2005-12-15 13:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-12-14  9:12 [RFC][PATCH 0/3] TCP/IP Critical socket communication mechanism Sridhar Samudrala
2005-12-14  9:22 ` Andi Kleen
2005-12-14 17:55   ` Sridhar Samudrala
2005-12-14 18:41     ` Andi Kleen
2005-12-14 19:20       ` David Stevens
2005-12-15  3:39     ` Matt Mackall
2005-12-15  4:30       ` David S. Miller
2005-12-15  5:02         ` Matt Mackall
2005-12-15  5:23           ` David S. Miller
2005-12-15  5:48             ` Matt Mackall
2005-12-15  5:53             ` Nick Piggin
2005-12-15  5:56             ` Stephen Hemminger
2005-12-15  8:44               ` David Stevens
2005-12-15  8:58                 ` David S. Miller
2005-12-15  9:27                   ` David Stevens
2005-12-15  5:42         ` Andi Kleen
2005-12-15  6:06           ` Stephen Hemminger
2005-12-15  7:37         ` Sridhar Samudrala
2005-12-15  8:21           ` David S. Miller
2005-12-15  8:35             ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-15  8:55             ` [RFC] Fine-grained memory priorities and PI Kyle Moffett
2005-12-15  9:04               ` Andi Kleen
2005-12-15 12:51                 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-12-15 13:31                   ` Andi Kleen
2005-12-15 12:45               ` Con Kolivas
2005-12-15 12:58                 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-12-15 13:02                   ` Con Kolivas
2005-12-16  2:09             ` [RFC][PATCH 0/3] TCP/IP Critical socket communication mechanism Sridhar Samudrala
2005-12-16 17:48               ` Stephen Hemminger
2005-12-16 18:38                 ` Sridhar Samudrala
2005-12-21  9:11                   ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-21  9:39                     ` David Stevens
2005-12-14 20:16 ` Jesper Juhl
2005-12-14 20:25   ` Ben Greear
2005-12-14 20:49   ` James Courtier-Dutton
2005-12-14 21:55     ` Sridhar Samudrala
2005-12-14 22:09       ` James Courtier-Dutton
2005-12-14 22:39         ` Ben Greear
2005-12-14 23:42           ` Sridhar Samudrala
2005-12-15  1:54     ` Mitchell Blank Jr
2005-12-15 11:38       ` James Courtier-Dutton
2005-12-15 11:47         ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-15 13:00           ` jamal
2005-12-15 13:07             ` Arjan van de Ven [this message]
2005-12-15 13:32               ` jamal
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     [not found] ` <5jWYp-3K1-19@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <5jXhZ-4kj-19@gated-at.bofh.it>
2005-12-16  8:35     ` Bodo Eggert

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