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From: "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>
To: mpm@selenic.com
Cc: sri@us.ibm.com, ak@suse.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/3] TCP/IP Critical socket communication mechanism
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 21:23:09 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20051214.212309.127095596.davem@davemloft.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20051215050250.GT8637@waste.org>

From: Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 21:02:50 -0800

> There needs to be two rules:
> 
> iff global memory critical flag is set
> - allocate from the global critical receive pool on receive
> - return packet to global pool if not destined for a socket with an
>   attached send mempool

This shuts off a router and/or firewall just because iSCSI or NFS peed
in it's pants.  Not really acceptable.

> I think this will provide the desired behavior

It's not desirable.

What if iSCSI is protected by IPSEC, and the key management daemon has
to process a security assosciation expiration and negotiate a new one
in order for iSCSI to further communicate with it's peer when this
memory shortage occurs?  It needs to send packets back and forth with
the remove key management daemon in order to do this, but since you
cut it off with this critical receive pool, the negotiation will never
succeed.

This stuff won't work.  It's not a generic solution and that's
why it has more holes than swiss cheese. :-)

  reply	other threads:[~2005-12-15  5:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-12-14  9:12 [RFC][PATCH 0/3] TCP/IP Critical socket communication mechanism Sridhar Samudrala
2005-12-14  9:22 ` Andi Kleen
2005-12-14 17:55   ` Sridhar Samudrala
2005-12-14 18:41     ` Andi Kleen
2005-12-14 19:20       ` David Stevens
2005-12-15  3:39     ` Matt Mackall
2005-12-15  4:30       ` David S. Miller
2005-12-15  5:02         ` Matt Mackall
2005-12-15  5:23           ` David S. Miller [this message]
2005-12-15  5:48             ` Matt Mackall
2005-12-15  5:53             ` Nick Piggin
2005-12-15  5:56             ` Stephen Hemminger
2005-12-15  8:44               ` David Stevens
2005-12-15  8:58                 ` David S. Miller
2005-12-15  9:27                   ` David Stevens
2005-12-15  5:42         ` Andi Kleen
2005-12-15  6:06           ` Stephen Hemminger
2005-12-15  7:37         ` Sridhar Samudrala
2005-12-15  8:21           ` David S. Miller
2005-12-15  8:35             ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-15  8:55             ` [RFC] Fine-grained memory priorities and PI Kyle Moffett
2005-12-15  9:04               ` Andi Kleen
2005-12-15 12:51                 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-12-15 13:31                   ` Andi Kleen
2005-12-15 12:45               ` Con Kolivas
2005-12-15 12:58                 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-12-15 13:02                   ` Con Kolivas
2005-12-16  2:09             ` [RFC][PATCH 0/3] TCP/IP Critical socket communication mechanism Sridhar Samudrala
2005-12-16 17:48               ` Stephen Hemminger
2005-12-16 18:38                 ` Sridhar Samudrala
2005-12-21  9:11                   ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-21  9:39                     ` David Stevens
2005-12-14 20:16 ` Jesper Juhl
2005-12-14 20:25   ` Ben Greear
2005-12-14 20:49   ` James Courtier-Dutton
2005-12-14 21:55     ` Sridhar Samudrala
2005-12-14 22:09       ` James Courtier-Dutton
2005-12-14 22:39         ` Ben Greear
2005-12-14 23:42           ` Sridhar Samudrala
2005-12-15  1:54     ` Mitchell Blank Jr
2005-12-15 11:38       ` James Courtier-Dutton
2005-12-15 11:47         ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-15 13:00           ` jamal
2005-12-15 13:07             ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-15 13:32               ` jamal
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     [not found] ` <5jWYp-3K1-19@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <5jXhZ-4kj-19@gated-at.bofh.it>
2005-12-16  8:35     ` Bodo Eggert

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