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From: Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>
To: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
Cc: casey@schaufler-ca.com, Karl MacMillan <kmacmill@redhat.com>,
	viro@ftp.linux.org.uk, hch@infradead.org,
	Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	selinux@tycho.nsa.gov, linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 08/28] SECURITY: Allow kernel services to override LSM settings for task actions [try #2]
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 14:33:41 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1197488021.1125.138.camel@moss-spartans.epoch.ncsc.mil> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <32168.1197484170@redhat.com>

On Wed, 2007-12-12 at 18:29 +0000, David Howells wrote:
> Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov> wrote:
> 
> > That sounds workable, although I think he will want a more specific hook
> > than security_secctx_to_secid(), or possibly a second hook call, that
> > would not only validate the context but authorize the use of it by the
> > cachefilesd process.  And then the security_task_kernel_act_as() hook
> > just takes the secid as input rather than the task struct of the daemon,
> > and applies it.  At that point, nfsd can use the same mechanism for
> > setting the acting SID based on the client process after doing its own
> > authorization.
> 
> I thought using secids was verboten as it made things too specific.

Well, that has been Casey's objection in the past to it, but he seems to
have accepted their use now for certain purposes, and they are already
entrenched in the audit and labeled networking interfaces.

> Have you example code for the security hook you mention?  I'm not sure I
> understand why security_secctx_to_secid() is not sufficient.

security_secctx_to_secid() would just validate and map a context string
to a secid.  It wouldn't perform any permission check, as the caller
might a kernel-internal user that is just mapping back and forth like
current users of security_secid_to_secctx, or it might be something that
ultimately originated from userspace but the hook has no way of knowing
why or what set of checks would be appropriate.  You'd need a more
specific hook for the authorization, one that would perform a permission
check, e.g. an avc_has_perm() call.  Which likely requires defining a
new class and permissions for your cachefiles kernel interface.

> Or is it that I need something that takes a secctx, converts it to a secid and
> authorises its use all in one go?  If it's this, why can't that be rolles into
> security_task_kernel_act_as()?  That sets up a task_security struct which is
> then switched in and out without consultation of the LSM.

I was under the impression that security_task_kernel_act_as() was being
used to switch the current task to an acting context, not to initially
set up a struct for later use.  If you go with the latter approach, then
what is the lifecycle on that struct?

BTW, it gets a little confusing with your use of task_security for the
full task security state vs our existing use of task_security_struct
within SELinux for the task's LSM security blob.  I suppose ours could
be renamed to task_selinux.

-- 
Stephen Smalley
National Security Agency


  reply	other threads:[~2007-12-12 19:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 126+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-12-05 19:38 [PATCH 00/28] Permit filesystem local caching [try #2] David Howells
2007-12-05 19:38 ` [PATCH 01/28] KEYS: Increase the payload size when instantiating a key " David Howells
2007-12-05 19:38 ` [PATCH 02/28] KEYS: Check starting keyring as part of search " David Howells
2007-12-05 19:38 ` [PATCH 03/28] KEYS: Allow the callout data to be passed as a blob rather than a string " David Howells
2007-12-05 19:38 ` [PATCH 04/28] KEYS: Add keyctl function to get a security label " David Howells
2007-12-05 19:38 ` [PATCH 05/28] Security: Change current->fs[ug]id to current_fs[ug]id() " David Howells
2007-12-05 19:38 ` [PATCH 06/28] SECURITY: Separate task security context from task_struct " David Howells
2007-12-05 19:38 ` [PATCH 07/28] SECURITY: De-embed task security record from task and use refcounting " David Howells
2007-12-05 19:38 ` [PATCH 08/28] SECURITY: Allow kernel services to override LSM settings for task actions " David Howells
2007-12-10 16:46   ` Stephen Smalley
2007-12-10 17:07   ` David Howells
2007-12-10 17:23     ` Stephen Smalley
2007-12-10 21:08     ` David Howells
2007-12-10 21:27       ` Stephen Smalley
2007-12-10 22:26         ` Casey Schaufler
2007-12-10 23:44           ` David Howells
2007-12-10 23:56             ` Casey Schaufler
2007-12-11 18:34           ` Stephen Smalley
2007-12-11 19:26             ` Casey Schaufler
2007-12-11 19:56               ` Stephen Smalley
2007-12-11 20:40                 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-12-10 23:36       ` David Howells
2007-12-10 23:46         ` Casey Schaufler
2007-12-11 19:52           ` Stephen Smalley
2007-12-11 19:37         ` Stephen Smalley
2007-12-12 14:41           ` Karl MacMillan
2007-12-12 14:53           ` David Howells
2007-12-12 14:59             ` Karl MacMillan
2007-12-11 20:42         ` David Howells
2007-12-11 21:18           ` Casey Schaufler
2007-12-11 21:34           ` Stephen Smalley
2007-12-19  3:28             ` Crispin Cowan
2007-12-19  5:39               ` Casey Schaufler
2007-12-19 14:54               ` Stephen Smalley
2007-12-11 22:43           ` David Howells
2007-12-11 23:04             ` Casey Schaufler
2007-12-12 15:25               ` Stephen Smalley
2007-12-12 16:51                 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-12-12 18:12                   ` Stephen Smalley
2007-12-12 18:34                   ` David Howells
2007-12-12 19:44                     ` Casey Schaufler
2007-12-12 19:49                       ` Stephen Smalley
2007-12-12 20:09                         ` Casey Schaufler
2007-12-12 22:29                           ` David Howells
2007-12-12 22:32                       ` David Howells
2007-12-12 18:25               ` David Howells
2007-12-12 19:20                 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-12-12 19:29                   ` David Howells
2007-12-12 19:35                   ` Stephen Smalley
2007-12-12 22:55                   ` David Howells
2007-12-13 14:51                     ` Stephen Smalley
2007-12-13 16:03                     ` David Howells
2007-12-12 18:29               ` David Howells
2007-12-12 19:33                 ` Stephen Smalley [this message]
2007-12-12 19:37                 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-12-12 22:52                   ` David Howells
2007-12-12 22:49                 ` David Howells
2007-12-13 14:49                   ` Stephen Smalley
2007-12-13 15:36                   ` David Howells
2007-12-13 16:23                     ` Stephen Smalley
2007-12-13 17:01                     ` David Howells
2007-12-13 17:27                       ` Stephen Smalley
2007-12-13 18:04                       ` David Howells
2007-12-19  3:28           ` Crispin Cowan
2007-12-19 23:38           ` David Howells
2008-01-09 16:51     ` David Howells
2008-01-09 18:11       ` Stephen Smalley
2008-01-09 18:56       ` David Howells
2008-01-09 19:19         ` Stephen Smalley
2008-01-10 11:09         ` David Howells
2008-01-14 14:01       ` David Howells
2008-01-14 14:52         ` Casey Schaufler
2008-01-14 15:19           ` David Howells
2008-01-15 14:56         ` Stephen Smalley
2008-01-15 16:03         ` David Howells
2008-01-15 16:08           ` Stephen Smalley
2008-01-15 18:10           ` Casey Schaufler
2008-01-15 19:15             ` Stephen Smalley
2008-01-15 21:55             ` David Howells
2008-01-15 22:23               ` Casey Schaufler
2008-01-14 14:06       ` David Howells
2008-01-15 14:58         ` Stephen Smalley
2008-01-23 20:52         ` David Howells
2008-01-23 22:03           ` James Morris
2008-01-09 17:27     ` David Howells
2007-12-05 19:39 ` [PATCH 09/28] FS-Cache: Release page->private after failed readahead " David Howells
2007-12-14  3:51   ` Nick Piggin
2007-12-17 22:42   ` David Howells
2007-12-18  7:03     ` Nick Piggin
2007-12-05 19:39 ` [PATCH 10/28] FS-Cache: Recruit a couple of page flags for cache management " David Howells
2007-12-14  4:08   ` Nick Piggin
2007-12-17 22:36   ` David Howells
2007-12-18  7:00     ` Nick Piggin
2007-12-20 18:33     ` David Howells
2007-12-21  1:08       ` Nick Piggin
2008-01-02 16:27       ` David Howells
2008-01-07 11:33         ` Nick Piggin
2008-01-07 13:09         ` David Howells
2008-01-08  3:01           ` Nick Piggin
2008-01-08 23:51           ` David Howells
2008-01-09  1:52             ` Nick Piggin
2008-01-09 15:45             ` David Howells
2008-01-09 23:52               ` Nick Piggin
2007-12-05 19:39 ` [PATCH 11/28] FS-Cache: Provide an add_wait_queue_tail() function " David Howells
2007-12-05 19:39 ` [PATCH 12/28] FS-Cache: Generic filesystem caching facility " David Howells
2007-12-05 19:39 ` [PATCH 13/28] CacheFiles: Add missing copy_page export for ia64 " David Howells
2007-12-05 19:39 ` [PATCH 14/28] CacheFiles: Be consistent about the use of mapping vs file->f_mapping in Ext3 " David Howells
2007-12-05 19:39 ` [PATCH 15/28] CacheFiles: Add a hook to write a single page of data to an inode " David Howells
2007-12-05 19:39 ` [PATCH 16/28] CacheFiles: Permit the page lock state to be monitored " David Howells
2007-12-05 19:39 ` [PATCH 17/28] CacheFiles: Export things for CacheFiles " David Howells
2007-12-05 19:39 ` [PATCH 18/28] CacheFiles: A cache that backs onto a mounted filesystem " David Howells
2007-12-05 19:39 ` [PATCH 19/28] NFS: Use local caching " David Howells
2007-12-05 19:40 ` [PATCH 20/28] NFS: Configuration and mount option changes to enable local caching on NFS " David Howells
2007-12-05 19:40 ` [PATCH 21/28] NFS: Display local caching state " David Howells
2007-12-05 19:40 ` [PATCH 22/28] fcrypt endianness misannotations " David Howells
2007-12-05 19:40 ` [PATCH 23/28] AFS: Add TestSetPageError() " David Howells
2007-12-05 19:40 ` [PATCH 24/28] AFS: Add a function to excise a rejected write from the pagecache " David Howells
2007-12-14  4:21   ` Nick Piggin
2007-12-17 22:54   ` David Howells
2007-12-18  7:07     ` Nick Piggin
2007-12-20 18:49     ` David Howells
2007-12-21  1:11       ` Nick Piggin
2007-12-05 19:40 ` [PATCH 25/28] AFS: Improve handling of a rejected writeback " David Howells
2007-12-05 19:40 ` [PATCH 26/28] AF_RXRPC: Save the operation ID for debugging " David Howells
2007-12-05 19:40 ` [PATCH 27/28] AFS: Implement shared-writable mmap " David Howells
2007-12-05 19:40 ` [PATCH 28/28] FS-Cache: Make kAFS use FS-Cache " David Howells

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