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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Hugh Dickins <hugh.dickins@tiscali.co.uk>,
	Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>, Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 07/13] powerpc: Preemptible mmu_gather
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 15:51:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1271253108.32749.46.camel@laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1271121817.13059.19.camel@pasglop>

On Tue, 2010-04-13 at 11:23 +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> > +      * If there are, but we fail to batch, we need to IPI (all?) CPUs so as
> > +      * to serialize against the IRQ disable. In case we do batch, the RCU
> > +      * grace period is at least long enough to cover IRQ disabled sections
> > +      * (XXX assumption, not strictly true).
> 
> Yeah well ... I'm not that familiar with RCU anymore. Back when I wrote
> that, iirc, I would more or less be safe against a CPU that doesn't
> schedule, but things may have well changed.
> 
> We are trying to be safe against another CPU walking page tables in the
> asm lockless hash miss or TLB miss code. Note that sparc64 has a similar
> issue. This is highly optimized asm code that -cannot- call into things
> like rcu_read_lock().

Right, so Paul has been working hard to remove certain implementation
artifact from RCU, such as the preempt-disable == rcu_read_lock thing.

Now, even Preemptible RCU has IRQ-disabled == rcu_read_lock, simply
because the RCU grace period state machine is driven from an interrupt.

But there is no such requirement on RCU at all, so in the interest of
removing assumptions and code validating we're trying to remove such
things.





  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-04-15  7:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-08 19:17 [PATCH 00/13] mm: preemptibility -v2 Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-08 19:17 ` [PATCH 01/13] powerpc: Add rcu_read_lock() to gup_fast() implementation Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-08 20:31   ` Rik van Riel
2010-04-09  3:11   ` Nick Piggin
2010-04-13  1:05   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-04-13  3:43     ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-04-14 13:51       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-15 14:28         ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-04-16  6:54           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-04-16 13:43             ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-04-16 23:25               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-04-16 13:51           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-16 14:17             ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-04-16 14:23               ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-16 14:32                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-04-16 14:56                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-16 15:09                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-04-16 15:14                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-16 16:45                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-04-16 19:37                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-16 20:28                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-04-18  3:06                           ` James Bottomley
2010-04-18 13:55                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-04-18 18:55                               ` James Bottomley
2010-04-16  6:51       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-04-16  8:18         ` Nick Piggin
2010-04-16  8:29           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-04-16  9:22             ` Nick Piggin
2010-04-08 19:17 ` [PATCH 02/13] mm: Revalidate anon_vma in page_lock_anon_vma() Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-08 20:50   ` Rik van Riel
2010-04-08 21:20   ` Andrew Morton
2010-04-08 21:54     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-09  2:19       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-09  2:19   ` Minchan Kim
2010-04-09  3:16   ` Nick Piggin
2010-04-09  4:56     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-04-09  6:34       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-09  6:47         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-04-09  7:29           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-09  7:57             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-04-09  8:03               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-04-09  8:24                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-04-09  8:01             ` Minchan Kim
2010-04-09  8:17               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-09 14:41                 ` mlock and pageout race? Minchan Kim
2010-04-09  8:44             ` [PATCH 02/13] mm: Revalidate anon_vma in page_lock_anon_vma() Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-24 19:32               ` Andrew Morton
2010-05-25  9:01                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-09 12:57   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-08 19:17 ` [PATCH 03/13] x86: Remove last traces of quicklist usage Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-08 20:51   ` Rik van Riel
2010-04-08 19:17 ` [PATCH 04/13] mm: Move anon_vma ref out from under CONFIG_KSM Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-09 12:35   ` Rik van Riel
2010-04-08 19:17 ` [PATCH 05/13] mm: Make use of the anon_vma ref count Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-09  7:04   ` Christian Ehrhardt
2010-04-09  9:57     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-08 19:17 ` [PATCH 06/13] mm: Preemptible mmu_gather Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-09  3:25   ` Nick Piggin
2010-04-09  8:18     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-09 20:36     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-19 19:16       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-08 19:17 ` [PATCH 07/13] powerpc: " Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-09  4:07   ` Nick Piggin
2010-04-09  8:14     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-09  8:46       ` Nick Piggin
2010-04-09  9:22         ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-13  2:06       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-04-13  1:56     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-04-13  1:23   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-04-13 10:22     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-14 13:34     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-14 13:51     ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2010-04-08 19:17 ` [PATCH 08/13] sparc: " Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-08 19:17 ` [PATCH 09/13] mm, powerpc: Move the RCU page-table freeing into generic code Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-09  3:35   ` Nick Piggin
2010-04-09  8:08     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-08 19:17 ` [PATCH 10/13] lockdep, mutex: Provide mutex_lock_nest_lock Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-09 15:36   ` Rik van Riel
2010-04-08 19:17 ` [PATCH 11/13] mutex: Provide mutex_is_contended Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-09 15:37   ` Rik van Riel
2010-04-08 19:17 ` [PATCH 12/13] mm: Convert i_mmap_lock and anon_vma->lock to mutexes Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-08 19:17 ` [PATCH 13/13] mm: Optimize page_lock_anon_vma Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-08 22:18   ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-04-09  8:35     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-09 19:22       ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-04-08 20:29 ` [PATCH 00/13] mm: preemptibility -v2 David Miller
2010-04-08 20:35   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-09  1:00   ` David Miller
2010-04-09  4:14 ` Nick Piggin
2010-04-09  8:35   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-09  8:50     ` Nick Piggin
2010-04-09  8:58       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-09  8:58 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2010-04-09  9:53   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-09  9:03 ` David Howells
2010-04-09  9:22   ` Peter Zijlstra

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