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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Cc: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Hugh Dickins <hugh.dickins@tiscali.co.uk>,
	Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>, Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/13] powerpc: Add rcu_read_lock() to gup_fast() implementation
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 16:56:50 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1271429810.4807.2390.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100416143202.GE2615@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Fri, 2010-04-16 at 07:32 -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 04:23:39PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Fri, 2010-04-16 at 07:17 -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > 
> > > > > Of course, with call_rcu_sched(), the corresponding RCU read-side critical
> > > > > sections are non-preemptible.  Therefore, in CONFIG_PREEMPT_RT, these
> > > > > read-side critical sections must use raw spinlocks.
> > > > 
> > > > OK, so if we fully remove CONFIG_TREE_PREEMPT_RCU (defaulting to y),
> > > > rename all the {call_rcu, rcu_read_lock, rcu_read_unlock,
> > > > synchronize_rcu} functions to {*}_preempt and then add a new
> > > > CONFIG_PREEMPT_RCU that simply maps {*} to either {*}_sched or
> > > > {*}_preempt, we've basically got what I've been asking for for a while,
> > > > no?
> > > 
> > > What would rcu_read_lock_preempt() do in a !CONFIG_PREEMPT kernel?
> > 
> > Same as for a preempt one, since you'd have to be able to schedule()
> > while holding it to be able to do things like mutex_lock().
> 
> So what you really want is something like rcu_read_lock_sleep() rather
> than rcu_read_lock_preempt(), right?  The point is that you want to do
> more than merely preempt, given that it is legal to do general blocking
> while holding a mutex, correct?

Right, but CONFIG_TREE_PREEMPT_RCU=y ends up being that. We could change
the name to _sleep, but we've been calling it preemptible-rcu for a long
while now.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-16 14:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-08 19:17 [PATCH 00/13] mm: preemptibility -v2 Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-08 19:17 ` [PATCH 01/13] powerpc: Add rcu_read_lock() to gup_fast() implementation Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-08 20:31   ` Rik van Riel
2010-04-09  3:11   ` Nick Piggin
2010-04-13  1:05   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-04-13  3:43     ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-04-14 13:51       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-15 14:28         ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-04-16  6:54           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-04-16 13:43             ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-04-16 23:25               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-04-16 13:51           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-16 14:17             ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-04-16 14:23               ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-16 14:32                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-04-16 14:56                   ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2010-04-16 15:09                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-04-16 15:14                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-16 16:45                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-04-16 19:37                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-16 20:28                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-04-18  3:06                           ` James Bottomley
2010-04-18 13:55                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-04-18 18:55                               ` James Bottomley
2010-04-16  6:51       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-04-16  8:18         ` Nick Piggin
2010-04-16  8:29           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-04-16  9:22             ` Nick Piggin
2010-04-08 19:17 ` [PATCH 02/13] mm: Revalidate anon_vma in page_lock_anon_vma() Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-08 20:50   ` Rik van Riel
2010-04-08 21:20   ` Andrew Morton
2010-04-08 21:54     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-09  2:19       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-09  2:19   ` Minchan Kim
2010-04-09  3:16   ` Nick Piggin
2010-04-09  4:56     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-04-09  6:34       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-09  6:47         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-04-09  7:29           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-09  7:57             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-04-09  8:03               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-04-09  8:24                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-04-09  8:01             ` Minchan Kim
2010-04-09  8:17               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-09 14:41                 ` mlock and pageout race? Minchan Kim
2010-04-09  8:44             ` [PATCH 02/13] mm: Revalidate anon_vma in page_lock_anon_vma() Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-24 19:32               ` Andrew Morton
2010-05-25  9:01                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-09 12:57   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-08 19:17 ` [PATCH 03/13] x86: Remove last traces of quicklist usage Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-08 20:51   ` Rik van Riel
2010-04-08 19:17 ` [PATCH 04/13] mm: Move anon_vma ref out from under CONFIG_KSM Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-09 12:35   ` Rik van Riel
2010-04-08 19:17 ` [PATCH 05/13] mm: Make use of the anon_vma ref count Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-09  7:04   ` Christian Ehrhardt
2010-04-09  9:57     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-08 19:17 ` [PATCH 06/13] mm: Preemptible mmu_gather Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-09  3:25   ` Nick Piggin
2010-04-09  8:18     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-09 20:36     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-19 19:16       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-08 19:17 ` [PATCH 07/13] powerpc: " Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-09  4:07   ` Nick Piggin
2010-04-09  8:14     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-09  8:46       ` Nick Piggin
2010-04-09  9:22         ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-13  2:06       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-04-13  1:56     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-04-13  1:23   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-04-13 10:22     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-14 13:34     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-14 13:51     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-08 19:17 ` [PATCH 08/13] sparc: " Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-08 19:17 ` [PATCH 09/13] mm, powerpc: Move the RCU page-table freeing into generic code Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-09  3:35   ` Nick Piggin
2010-04-09  8:08     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-08 19:17 ` [PATCH 10/13] lockdep, mutex: Provide mutex_lock_nest_lock Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-09 15:36   ` Rik van Riel
2010-04-08 19:17 ` [PATCH 11/13] mutex: Provide mutex_is_contended Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-09 15:37   ` Rik van Riel
2010-04-08 19:17 ` [PATCH 12/13] mm: Convert i_mmap_lock and anon_vma->lock to mutexes Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-08 19:17 ` [PATCH 13/13] mm: Optimize page_lock_anon_vma Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-08 22:18   ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-04-09  8:35     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-09 19:22       ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-04-08 20:29 ` [PATCH 00/13] mm: preemptibility -v2 David Miller
2010-04-08 20:35   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-09  1:00   ` David Miller
2010-04-09  4:14 ` Nick Piggin
2010-04-09  8:35   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-09  8:50     ` Nick Piggin
2010-04-09  8:58       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-09  8:58 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2010-04-09  9:53   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-09  9:03 ` David Howells
2010-04-09  9:22   ` Peter Zijlstra

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