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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
Cc: paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Hugh Dickins <hugh.dickins@tiscali.co.uk>,
	Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/13] powerpc: Add rcu_read_lock() to gup_fast() implementation
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 18:29:02 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1271406542.13059.188.camel@pasglop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100416081859.GK5683@laptop>

On Fri, 2010-04-16 at 18:18 +1000, Nick Piggin wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 04:51:34PM +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> > On Mon, 2010-04-12 at 20:43 -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > > So we might have to support the interrupt assumption, at least in
> > > some
> > > > form, with those guys...
> > > 
> > > One way to make the interrupt assumption official is to use
> > > synchronize_sched() rather than synchronize_rcu().
> > 
> > Ok, so I'm a bit of a RCU newbie as you may know :-) Right now, we use
> > neither, we use call_rcu and we free the pages from the callback.
> 
> BTW. you currently have an interesting page table freeing path where
> you usually free by RCU, but (occasionally) free by IPI. This means
> you need to disable both RCU and interrupts to walk page tables.

Well, the point is we use interrupts to synchronize. The fact that RCU
used to do the job was an added benefit. I may need to switch to rcu
_sched variants tho to keep that. The IPI case is a slow path in case we
are out of memory and cannot allocate our page of RCU batch.

> If you change it to always use RCU, then you wouldn't need to disable
> interrupts. Whether this actually matters anywhere in your mm code, I
> don't know (it's probably not terribly important for gup_fast). But
> rcu disable is always preferable for latency and performance.

Well, the main case is the hash miss and that always runs with IRQs off.

Cheers,
Ben.


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  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-16  8:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-08 19:17 [PATCH 00/13] mm: preemptibility -v2 Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-08 19:17 ` [PATCH 01/13] powerpc: Add rcu_read_lock() to gup_fast() implementation Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-08 20:31   ` Rik van Riel
2010-04-09  3:11   ` Nick Piggin
2010-04-13  1:05   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-04-13  3:43     ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-04-14 13:51       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-15 14:28         ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-04-16  6:54           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-04-16 13:43             ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-04-16 23:25               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-04-16 13:51           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-16 14:17             ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-04-16 14:23               ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-16 14:32                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-04-16 14:56                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-16 15:09                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-04-16 15:14                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-16 16:45                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-04-16 19:37                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-16 20:28                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-04-18  3:06                           ` James Bottomley
2010-04-18 13:55                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-04-18 18:55                               ` James Bottomley
2010-04-16  6:51       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-04-16  8:18         ` Nick Piggin
2010-04-16  8:29           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2010-04-16  9:22             ` Nick Piggin
2010-04-08 19:17 ` [PATCH 02/13] mm: Revalidate anon_vma in page_lock_anon_vma() Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-08 20:50   ` Rik van Riel
2010-04-08 21:20   ` Andrew Morton
2010-04-08 21:54     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-09  2:19       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-09  2:19   ` Minchan Kim
2010-04-09  3:16   ` Nick Piggin
2010-04-09  4:56     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-04-09  6:34       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-09  6:47         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-04-09  7:29           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-09  7:57             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-04-09  8:03               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-04-09  8:24                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-04-09  8:01             ` Minchan Kim
2010-04-09  8:17               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-09 14:41                 ` mlock and pageout race? Minchan Kim
2010-04-09  8:44             ` [PATCH 02/13] mm: Revalidate anon_vma in page_lock_anon_vma() Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-24 19:32               ` Andrew Morton
2010-05-25  9:01                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-09 12:57   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-08 19:17 ` [PATCH 03/13] x86: Remove last traces of quicklist usage Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-08 20:51   ` Rik van Riel
2010-04-08 19:17 ` [PATCH 04/13] mm: Move anon_vma ref out from under CONFIG_KSM Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-09 12:35   ` Rik van Riel
2010-04-08 19:17 ` [PATCH 05/13] mm: Make use of the anon_vma ref count Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-09  7:04   ` Christian Ehrhardt
2010-04-09  9:57     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-08 19:17 ` [PATCH 06/13] mm: Preemptible mmu_gather Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-09  3:25   ` Nick Piggin
2010-04-09  8:18     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-09 20:36     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-19 19:16       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-08 19:17 ` [PATCH 07/13] powerpc: " Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-09  4:07   ` Nick Piggin
2010-04-09  8:14     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-09  8:46       ` Nick Piggin
2010-04-09  9:22         ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-13  2:06       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-04-13  1:56     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-04-13  1:23   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-04-13 10:22     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-14 13:34     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-14 13:51     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-08 19:17 ` [PATCH 08/13] sparc: " Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-08 19:17 ` [PATCH 09/13] mm, powerpc: Move the RCU page-table freeing into generic code Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-09  3:35   ` Nick Piggin
2010-04-09  8:08     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-08 19:17 ` [PATCH 10/13] lockdep, mutex: Provide mutex_lock_nest_lock Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-09 15:36   ` Rik van Riel
2010-04-08 19:17 ` [PATCH 11/13] mutex: Provide mutex_is_contended Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-09 15:37   ` Rik van Riel
2010-04-08 19:17 ` [PATCH 12/13] mm: Convert i_mmap_lock and anon_vma->lock to mutexes Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-08 19:17 ` [PATCH 13/13] mm: Optimize page_lock_anon_vma Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-08 22:18   ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-04-09  8:35     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-09 19:22       ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-04-08 20:29 ` [PATCH 00/13] mm: preemptibility -v2 David Miller
2010-04-08 20:35   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-09  1:00   ` David Miller
2010-04-09  4:14 ` Nick Piggin
2010-04-09  8:35   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-09  8:50     ` Nick Piggin
2010-04-09  8:58       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-09  8:58 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2010-04-09  9:53   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-09  9:03 ` David Howells
2010-04-09  9:22   ` Peter Zijlstra

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