From: Mike Galbraith <mgalbraith@suse.de>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Suresh Siddha <suresh.b.siddha@intel.com>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>
Subject: Re: [patch 3/7] sched: set skip_clock_update in yield_task_fair()
Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 07:39:31 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1322203171.8286.22.camel@marge.simson.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1322129545.2921.6.camel@twins>
On Thu, 2011-11-24 at 11:12 +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Thu, 2011-11-24 at 04:50 +0100, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> > On Wed, 2011-11-23 at 15:48 +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2011-11-22 at 15:21 +0100, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> > > > This is another case where we are on our way to schedule(),
> > > > so can save a useless clock update and resulting microscopic
> > > > vruntime update.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Everytime I see one of these skip_clock_update thingies I get the idea
> > > we should do something smarter, because its most fragile and getting it
> > > wrong results in a subtle trainwreck..
> > >
> > > Would something like the below help in validating this stuff?
> >
> > No, because switch itself is irrelevant to fair-beans counting.
>
> Hmm, right, but we can keep another counter that is more relevant, like
> all schedule(),ttwu() and various other calls, right?
Yeah, there's gotta be a way to be smarter about this. When waking a
gaggle, we'll do useless microscopic updates and preempt checks for each
and every wakeup (not to mention waker can be preempted). It's one
event per touched rq really, but we treat is as many. The skip thing
just binds a couple obvious spots in a hacky way.
> Thing is, is that going to be less fragile than the current crap :-(
I agree it's fragile.
-Mike
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-11-25 6:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-11-15 9:46 sched: Avoid SMT siblings in select_idle_sibling() if possible Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-16 1:14 ` Suresh Siddha
2011-11-16 9:24 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-11-16 18:37 ` Suresh Siddha
2011-11-17 1:59 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-11-17 15:38 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-11-17 15:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-17 16:38 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-11-17 17:36 ` Suresh Siddha
2011-11-18 15:14 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-11-18 15:17 ` [patch 1/6] sched: use rt.nr_cpus_allowed to recover select_task_rq() cycles Mike Galbraith
2011-11-18 15:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-18 17:34 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-11-22 14:17 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-11-22 14:18 ` [patch 1/7] " Mike Galbraith
2011-12-06 9:50 ` [tip:sched/core] sched: Use " tip-bot for Mike Galbraith
2011-11-22 14:20 ` [patch 2/7] sched: save some hrtick_start_fair cycles Mike Galbraith
2011-12-06 20:20 ` [tip:sched/core] sched: Save " tip-bot for Mike Galbraith
2011-11-22 14:21 ` [patch 3/7] sched: set skip_clock_update in yield_task_fair() Mike Galbraith
2011-11-23 11:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-23 12:06 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-11-23 14:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-24 3:50 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-11-24 10:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-25 6:39 ` Mike Galbraith [this message]
2011-12-06 9:51 ` [tip:sched/core] sched: Set " tip-bot for Mike Galbraith
2011-11-22 14:22 ` [patch 4/7] sched: convert rq->avg_idle to rq->avg_event Mike Galbraith
2011-11-23 11:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-23 12:09 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-11-23 12:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-23 12:57 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-11-23 14:21 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-11-22 14:23 ` [patch 5/7] sched: ratelimit select_idle_sibling()for sync wakeups Mike Galbraith
2011-11-22 14:24 ` [patch 6/7] sched: use rq->avg_event to resurrect nohz ratelimiting Mike Galbraith
2011-11-23 11:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-23 12:35 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-11-22 14:26 ` [patch 7/7] sched: only use TTWU_QUEUE when waker/wakee CPUs do not share top level cache Mike Galbraith
2011-11-23 12:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-18 15:39 ` [patch 1/6] sched: use rt.nr_cpus_allowed to recover select_task_rq() cycles Hillf Danton
2011-11-18 15:18 ` [patch 2/6] sched: convert rq->avg_idle to rq->avg_event Mike Galbraith
2011-11-18 15:19 ` [patch 3/6] sched: use rq->avg_event to resurrect nohz ratelimiting Mike Galbraith
2011-11-18 15:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-18 17:42 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-11-19 0:51 ` Van De Ven, Arjan
2011-11-19 4:15 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-11-18 15:20 ` [patch 4/6] sched: ratelimit select_idle_sibling()for sync wakeups Mike Galbraith
2011-11-18 15:22 ` [patch 5/6] sched: save some hrtick_start_fair cycles Mike Galbraith
2011-11-18 15:23 ` [patch 6/6] sched: set skip_clock_update in yield_task_fair() Mike Galbraith
2012-02-20 14:41 ` sched: Avoid SMT siblings in select_idle_sibling() if possible Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-20 15:03 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2012-02-20 18:25 ` Mike Galbraith
2012-02-21 0:06 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2012-02-21 6:37 ` Mike Galbraith
2012-02-21 8:09 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2012-02-20 18:14 ` Mike Galbraith
2012-02-20 18:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-20 19:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-21 5:43 ` Mike Galbraith
2012-02-21 8:32 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2012-02-21 9:21 ` Mike Galbraith
2012-02-21 10:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-21 14:58 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2012-02-23 10:49 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2012-02-23 11:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2012-02-23 12:18 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2012-02-23 11:20 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2012-02-23 11:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2012-02-23 11:32 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2012-02-23 16:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2012-02-23 11:21 ` Mike Galbraith
2012-02-25 6:54 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2012-02-25 8:30 ` Mike Galbraith
2012-02-27 22:11 ` Suresh Siddha
2012-02-28 5:05 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-11-17 19:08 ` Suresh Siddha
2011-11-18 15:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-18 15:26 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-12-06 9:49 ` [tip:sched/core] sched: Clean up domain traversal in select_idle_sibling() tip-bot for Suresh Siddha
2011-11-18 23:40 ` [tip:sched/core] sched: Avoid SMT siblings in select_idle_sibling() if possible tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
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