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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: "Radim Krčmář" <rkrcmar@redhat.com>, "Wanpeng Li" <kernellwp@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 2/6] KVM: X86: Implement PV IPIs in linux guest
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 18:47:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1357a0b5-0cd8-8cb5-6c61-c9662219bed0@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180719162826.GB11749@flask>

On 19/07/2018 18:28, Radim Krčmář wrote:
>> +
>> +	kvm_hypercall3(KVM_HC_SEND_IPI, ipi_bitmap_low, ipi_bitmap_high, vector);
> and
> 
> 	kvm_hypercall3(KVM_HC_SEND_IPI, ipi_bitmap[0], ipi_bitmap[1], vector);
> 
> Still, the main problem is that we can only address 128 APICs.
> 
> A simple improvement would reuse the vector field (as we need only 8
> bits) and put a 'offset' in the rest.  The offset would say which
> cluster of 128 are we addressing.  24 bits of offset results in 2^31
> total addressable CPUs (we probably should even use that many bits).
> The downside of this is that we can only address 128 at a time.
> 
> It's basically the same as x2apic cluster mode, only with 128 cluster
> size instead of 16, so the code should be a straightforward port.
> And because x2apic code doesn't seem to use any division by the cluster
> size, we could even try to use kvm_hypercall4, add ipi_bitmap[2], and
> make the cluster size 192. :)

I did suggest an offset earlier in the discussion.

The main problem is that consecutive CPU ids do not map to consecutive
APIC ids.  But still, we could do an hypercall whenever the total range
exceeds 64.  Something like

u64 ipi_bitmap = 0;
for_each_cpu(cpu, mask)
	if (!ipi_bitmap) {
		min = max = cpu;
	} else if (cpu < min && max - cpu < 64) {
		ipi_bitmap <<= min - cpu;
		min = cpu;
	} else if (id < min + 64) {
		max = cpu < max ? max : cpu;
	} else {
		/* ... send hypercall... */
		min = max = cpu;
		ipi_bitmap = 0;
	}
	__set_bit(ipi_bitmap, cpu - min);
}
if (ipi_bitmap) {
	/* ... send hypercall... */
}

We could keep the cluster size of 128, but it would be more complicated
to do the left shift in the first "else if".  If the limit is 64, you
can keep the two arguments in the hypercall, and just pass 0 as the
"high" bitmap on 64-bit kernels.

Paolo

> But because it is very similar to x2apic, I'd really need some real
> performance data to see if this benefits a real workload.
> Hardware could further optimize LAPIC (apicv, vapic) in the future,
> which we'd lose by using paravirt.
>
> e.g. AMD's acceleration should be superior to this when using < 8 VCPUs
> as they can use logical xAPIC and send without VM exits (when all VCPUs
> are running).
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2018-07-19 16:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-03  6:21 [PATCH v3 0/6] KVM: X86: Implement PV IPIs support Wanpeng Li
2018-07-03  6:21 ` [PATCH v3 1/6] KVM: X86: Add kvm hypervisor init time platform setup callback Wanpeng Li
2018-07-03  6:21 ` [PATCH v3 2/6] KVM: X86: Implement PV IPIs in linux guest Wanpeng Li
2018-07-19 16:28   ` Radim Krčmář
2018-07-19 16:47     ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2018-07-19 17:22       ` Radim Krčmář
2018-07-20  3:35       ` Wanpeng Li
2018-07-20  5:58       ` Wanpeng Li
2018-07-20  8:06         ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-07-20  3:33     ` Wanpeng Li
2018-07-20  9:51       ` Radim Krcmar
2018-07-20 10:17         ` Wanpeng Li
2018-07-19 23:05   ` David Matlack
2018-07-20  3:45     ` Wanpeng Li
2018-07-20 13:12       ` Radim Krcmar
2018-07-03  6:21 ` [PATCH v3 3/6] KVM: X86: Fallback to original apic hooks when bad happens Wanpeng Li
2018-07-03  6:21 ` [PATCH v3 4/6] KVM: X86: Implement PV IPIs send hypercall Wanpeng Li
2018-07-19 16:47   ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-07-20  3:49     ` Wanpeng Li
2018-07-03  6:21 ` [PATCH v3 5/6] KVM: X86: Add NMI support to PV IPIs Wanpeng Li
2018-07-19 16:31   ` Radim Krčmář
2018-07-20  3:53     ` Wanpeng Li
2018-07-20  8:04       ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-07-20 13:26         ` Radim Krcmar
2018-07-23  0:52           ` Wanpeng Li
2018-07-03  6:21 ` [PATCH v3 6/6] KVM: X86: Expose PV_SEND_IPI CPUID feature bit to guest Wanpeng Li
2018-07-18  3:00 ` [PATCH v3 0/6] KVM: X86: Implement PV IPIs support Wanpeng Li

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