2.4.5-ac13, APM, and Dell Inspiron 8000

2.4.5-ac13, APM, and Dell Inspiron 8000

[Georg Nikodym]

I've been running 2.4.5 on my new Dell I8000 without too many
problems.  Last night I built -ac13 (on my porch) and booted it
without incident.  Later, going inside and re-connecting the AC I
notice that the thing's hung.  I play around a bit and discover that
the act of plugging or unplugging the power cord will hang the box.

This lead me to disable all power manglement in the BIOS.  No joy.

This problem does not exist using straight 2.4.5.

Has anybody else seen this?  Any debugging suggestions?  Or stated
differently, has anybody with this machine arrived at a configuration
that avoids weirdness in the power management framework?

In case it's interesting, here's the lspci output:

00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82815 815 Chipset Host Bridge and Memory Controller Hub (rev 02)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation: Unknown device 1131 (rev 02)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation: Unknown device 2448 (rev 03)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation: Unknown device 244c (rev 03)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation: Unknown device 244a (rev 03)
00:1f.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82820 820 (Camino 2) Chipset USB (Hub A) (rev 03)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility M4 AGP
02:03.0 Multimedia audio controller: ESS Technology ES1983S Maestro-3i PCI Audio Accelerator (rev 10)
02:06.0 Communication controller: Lucent Microelectronics WinModem 56k (rev 01)
02:0f.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI4451 PC card Cardbus Controller
02:0f.1 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI4451 PC card Cardbus Controller
02:0f.2 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments: Unknown device 8027
03:00.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3CCFE575BT Cyclone CardBus (rev 01)

Re: 2.4.5-ac13, APM, and Dell Inspiron 8000

[Juri Haberland]

You wrote:
> 
> I've been running 2.4.5 on my new Dell I8000 without too many
> problems.  Last night I built -ac13 (on my porch) and booted it
> without incident.  Later, going inside and re-connecting the AC I
> notice that the thing's hung.  I play around a bit and discover that
> the act of plugging or unplugging the power cord will hang the box.
> 
> This lead me to disable all power manglement in the BIOS.  No joy.
> 
> This problem does not exist using straight 2.4.5.
> 
> Has anybody else seen this?  Any debugging suggestions?  Or stated
> differently, has anybody with this machine arrived at a configuration
> that avoids weirdness in the power management framework?

Ok, I just tried that and my i8000 locked up as well. No problems with
2.4.5 as well. I have also another problem:
Running with -ac13 it doesn't poweroff properly - but it did running
2.4.5. Sometimes it just stops where it should poweroff and locks hard,
sometimes it blanks the display before locking up hard.

Alan, what other infos do you need?

Juri

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Juri Haberland  <juri@koschikode.com> 

Re: 2.4.5-ac13, APM, and Dell Inspiron 8000

[David N. Lombard]

Juri Haberland wrote:
> 
> You wrote:
> >
> > I've been running 2.4.5 on my new Dell I8000 without too many
> > problems.  Last night I built -ac13 (on my porch) and booted it
> > without incident.  Later, going inside and re-connecting the AC I
> > notice that the thing's hung.  I play around a bit and discover that
> > the act of plugging or unplugging the power cord will hang the box.
> >
> > This lead me to disable all power manglement in the BIOS.  No joy.
> >
> > This problem does not exist using straight 2.4.5.
> >
> > Has anybody else seen this?  Any debugging suggestions?  Or stated
> > differently, has anybody with this machine arrived at a configuration
> > that avoids weirdness in the power management framework?
> 
> Ok, I just tried that and my i8000 locked up as well. No problems with
> 2.4.5 as well. I have also another problem:
> Running with -ac13 it doesn't poweroff properly - but it did running
> 2.4.5. Sometimes it just stops where it should poweroff and locks hard,
> sometimes it blanks the display before locking up hard.

The Dell i5000e crashes when switching between mains and battery when
the disk is active, so you might try to plug/unplug with the system
quiet.

If this works, you'll be in a *little* better spot.

As for hanging, you might try suspending it (i.e., close the display)
and opening it back up.  This works for the i5000e; it also clears the
display that sometimes goes *nuts* when switching video modes.  This
last behavior has only surfaced with the latest A06 BIOS.

-- 
David N. Lombard

Re: 2.4.5-ac13, APM, and Dell Inspiron 8000

[Juri Haberland]

You wrote:
> Juri Haberland wrote:
>> 
>> Ok, I just tried that and my i8000 locked up as well. No problems with
>> 2.4.5 as well. I have also another problem:
>> Running with -ac13 it doesn't poweroff properly - but it did running
>> 2.4.5. Sometimes it just stops where it should poweroff and locks hard,
>> sometimes it blanks the display before locking up hard.
> 
> The Dell i5000e crashes when switching between mains and battery when
> the disk is active, so you might try to plug/unplug with the system
> quiet.
> 
> If this works, you'll be in a *little* better spot.
> 
> As for hanging, you might try suspending it (i.e., close the display)
> and opening it back up.  This works for the i5000e; it also clears the
> display that sometimes goes *nuts* when switching video modes.  This
> last behavior has only surfaced with the latest A06 BIOS.

Hi,
I didn't have all these problems when running 2.4.5 or 2.4.6-pre2.
So there is something odd in Alan's tree (I assume).

Juri

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Juri Haberland  <juri@koschikode.com>