From: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
To: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC 09/10] x86/enter: Create macros to restrict/unrestrict Indirect Branch Speculation
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2018 18:26:52 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1516991212.30244.262.camel@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <07daf763-cd29-5d1c-1488-1fcb5b440347@linux.intel.com>
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On Fri, 2018-01-26 at 10:12 -0800, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> On 1/26/2018 10:11 AM, David Woodhouse wrote:
> >
> > I am *actively* ignoring Skylake right now. This is about per-SKL
> > userspace even with SMEP, because we think Intel's document lies to us.
>
> if you think we lie to you then I think we're done with the conversation?
>
> Please tell us then what you deploy in AWS for your customers ?
>
> or show us research that shows we lied to you?
As you know well, I mean "we think Intel's document is not correct".
The evidence which made us suspect that is fairly clear in the last few
emails in this thread — it's about the BTB/RSB only having the low bits
of the target, which would mean that userspace *can* put malicious
targets into the RSB, regardless of SMEP.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-01-26 18:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-01-26 2:11 [RFC 09/10] x86/enter: Create macros to restrict/unrestrict Indirect Branch Speculation Liran Alon
2018-01-26 2:23 ` Dave Hansen
2018-01-26 9:11 ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-26 17:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-26 17:27 ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-26 17:29 ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-26 17:31 ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-26 17:59 ` Andi Kleen
2018-01-26 18:11 ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-26 18:12 ` Arjan van de Ven
2018-01-26 18:26 ` David Woodhouse [this message]
2018-01-26 18:28 ` Van De Ven, Arjan
2018-01-26 18:43 ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-26 18:44 ` Van De Ven, Arjan
2018-01-26 18:53 ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-26 19:02 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2018-01-26 19:11 ` Hansen, Dave
2018-01-27 13:42 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2018-01-27 15:55 ` Dave Hansen
2018-01-26 19:11 ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-26 8:46 ` David Woodhouse
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2018-01-26 2:50 Liran Alon
2018-01-26 2:55 ` Van De Ven, Arjan
2018-01-23 11:13 Liran Alon
2018-01-25 22:20 ` Dave Hansen
2018-01-22 22:15 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2018-01-20 19:22 [RFC 00/10] Speculation Control feature support KarimAllah Ahmed
2018-01-20 19:23 ` [RFC 09/10] x86/enter: Create macros to restrict/unrestrict Indirect Branch Speculation KarimAllah Ahmed
2018-01-21 19:14 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-01-23 16:12 ` Tom Lendacky
2018-01-23 16:20 ` Woodhouse, David
2018-01-23 22:37 ` Tom Lendacky
2018-01-23 22:49 ` Andi Kleen
2018-01-23 23:14 ` Woodhouse, David
2018-01-23 23:22 ` Andi Kleen
2018-01-24 0:47 ` Tim Chen
2018-01-24 1:00 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-01-24 1:22 ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-24 1:59 ` Van De Ven, Arjan
2018-01-24 3:25 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-01-21 19:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-21 20:28 ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-21 21:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-21 22:00 ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-21 22:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-22 16:27 ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-23 7:29 ` Ingo Molnar
2018-01-23 7:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2018-01-23 9:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2018-01-23 9:37 ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-23 15:01 ` Dave Hansen
2018-01-23 9:30 ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-23 10:15 ` Ingo Molnar
2018-01-23 10:27 ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-23 10:44 ` Ingo Molnar
2018-01-23 10:57 ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-23 10:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2018-01-23 10:35 ` David Woodhouse
2018-02-04 18:43 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-02-04 20:22 ` David Woodhouse
2018-02-06 9:14 ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-25 16:19 ` Mason
2018-01-25 17:16 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-01-29 11:59 ` Mason
2018-01-24 0:05 ` Andi Kleen
2018-01-23 20:16 ` Pavel Machek
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