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From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
	Alexandre Courbot <gnurou@gmail.com>,
	Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>,
	Bryan Wu <cooloney@gmail.com>, Lee Jones <lee.jones@linaro.org>,
	Grant Likely <grant.likely@linaro.org>,
	Aaron Lu <aaron.lu@intel.com>,
	Darren Hart <dvhart@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 04/15] ACPI: Document ACPI device specific properties
Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2014 14:46:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <15893883.nvuW3ndylz@wuerfel> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141002121508.GM1786@lahna.fi.intel.com>

On Thursday 02 October 2014 15:15:08 Mika Westerberg wrote:
> > I thought when we had discussed the subsystem specific bindings, the
> > consensus there was to have subsystem specific accessors and
> > properties/tables.
> > 
> > I would argue that for everything that ACPI already has (interrupts,
> > registers, gpio, dmaengine, ...) the native method should be used,
> > possibly using _DSD to provide naming for otherwise anonymous references.
> 
> Absolutely. That's precisely what we do in the GPIO patch of this
> series. E.g we use ACPI GpioIo/GpioInt _CRS resources but give name to
> the GPIOs with the help of _DSD.

Ok, I've looked at the example again:

+       Device (DEV0)
+       {
+               Name (_CRS, ResourceTemplate () {
+                       GpioIo (Exclusive, PullUp, 0, 0, IoRestrictionInputOnly,
+                               "\\_SB.PCI0.LPC", 0, ResourceConsumer) {0}
+                       GpioIo (Exclusive, PullUp, 0, 0, IoRestrictionInputOnly,
+                               "\\_SB.PCI0.LPC", 0, ResourceConsumer) {1}
+                       ...
+               })
+
+               Name (_DSD, Package () {
+                       ToUUID("daffd814-6eba-4d8c-8a91-bc9bbf4aa301"),
+                       Package () {
+                               Package () {"reset-gpio", {^DEV0, 0, 0, 0}},
+                               Package () {"shutdown-gpio", {^DEV0, 1, 0, 0}},
+                       }
+               })
+       }

tell me if I'm interpreting this right: you use _CRS to define a reference
to the actual GPIO controller here, but then in your _DSD you have something
that is a bit like the DT gpio binding, except that it doesn't refer to
a GPIO controller but to the GPIO using device itself.

When a driver calls dev_get_named_gpiod_from_child, you then lookup the
"reset-gpio" (or other) properties to find the reference to the _CRS.

Why can't you instead have a "gpio-names" property in _DSD that just
links from a string to an index as we do in all the other bindings?
It sounds to me like that would be simpler and more consistent with
the way things are done in ACPI, and have no effect that would be visible
to the driver.
 
> For things that don't have correspondence in ACPI but have well defined
> existing DT schema, like PWMs, we should follow that.

Only for stuff that is visible to drivers. I think it's important
that a driver calling pwm_get() today should keep working with
ACPI when the pwm subsystem is extended to support that.

However, that does not necessarily mean using #pwm-cells and pwm-names
properties when there is a better way to express the same in ACPI
syntax. AFAICT, the #foo-names is completely redundant for ACPI
as the length of a property in a list of similar elements is part
of the binary data (if not, please correct me), and I already commented
that I think the foo-names stuff could be encoded in the package
directly in a way we can't do in DT.

Even if you want to do automatic translation between DT and ACPI,
I think it would be possible to treat these two the same:

(forgive any syntax errors)

	Name (_DSD, Package () {
		ToUUID("daffd814-6eba-4d8c-8a91-bc9bbf4aa301"),
		Package () {
			Package () { "pwms" { "led-red", ^PWM0, 0, 10 },
					    { "led-green", ^PWM0, 1, 20 }},
	}

vs.

	pwm-slave {
		pwms = <&pwm0 0 10>, <&pwm1 1 20>;
		pwm-names = "led-red", "led-green";
	};


	Arnd

  reply	other threads:[~2014-10-02 12:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 130+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-16 11:52 [RFC PATCH v2 00/16] Add ACPI _DSD and unified device properties support Mika Westerberg
2014-09-16 11:52 ` [RFC PATCH v2 01/16] ACPI: Add support for device specific properties Mika Westerberg
2014-10-06 13:50   ` Grant Likely
2014-10-06 14:32     ` Mika Westerberg
2014-10-06 16:25       ` Darren Hart
2014-09-16 11:52 ` [RFC PATCH v2 02/16] Driver core: Unified device properties interface for platform firmware Mika Westerberg
2014-09-17 18:28   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-09-16 11:52 ` [RFC PATCH v2 03/16] ACPI: Allow drivers to match using Device Tree compatible property Mika Westerberg
2014-09-16 11:52 ` [RFC PATCH v2 04/16] ACPI: Document ACPI device specific properties Mika Westerberg
2014-09-16 11:52 ` [RFC PATCH v2 05/16] mfd: Add ACPI support Mika Westerberg
2014-09-16 21:54   ` Lee Jones
2014-09-24 12:00   ` Lee Jones
2014-09-16 11:52 ` [RFC PATCH v2 06/16] gpio / ACPI: Add support for _DSD device properties Mika Westerberg
2014-09-23 15:27   ` Linus Walleij
2014-09-16 11:52 ` [RFC PATCH v2 07/16] gpio: Add support for unified device properties interface Mika Westerberg
2014-09-23 15:25   ` Linus Walleij
2014-09-23 15:45     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-23 15:52       ` Mika Westerberg
2014-09-23 16:17         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2014-09-23 20:31           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-23 16:25       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-23 16:26         ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-23 20:47           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-24  7:55             ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-24 14:08               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-23 21:15           ` Darren Hart
2014-09-24  9:12             ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-24  9:38               ` Mika Westerberg
2014-09-24 14:11                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-26  3:21               ` Darren Hart
2014-09-26  8:36                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-26 14:42                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-07 13:37                 ` Linus Walleij
2014-10-07 15:37                   ` Andy Shevchenko
2014-10-07 23:57                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-16 11:52 ` [RFC PATCH v2 08/16] gpio: sch: Consolidate core and resume banks Mika Westerberg
2014-09-16 11:52 ` [RFC PATCH v2 09/16] leds: leds-gpio: Add support for GPIO descriptors Mika Westerberg
2014-09-19  8:18   ` Alexandre Courbot
2014-09-24  7:55   ` Linus Walleij
2014-09-24  9:42     ` Mika Westerberg
2014-09-16 11:52 ` [RFC PATCH v2 10/16] leds: leds-gpio: Make use of device property API Mika Westerberg
2014-09-16 11:52 ` [RFC PATCH v2 11/16] leds: leds-gpio: Add ACPI probing support Mika Westerberg
2014-09-16 11:52 ` [RFC PATCH v2 12/16] input: gpio_keys_polled - Add support for GPIO descriptors Mika Westerberg
2014-09-19  8:22   ` Alexandre Courbot
2014-09-24  8:02   ` Linus Walleij
2014-09-16 11:52 ` [RFC PATCH v2 13/16] input: gpio_keys_polled - Make use of device property API Mika Westerberg
2014-09-16 11:52 ` [RFC PATCH v2 14/16] input: gpio_keys_polled - Add ACPI probing support Mika Westerberg
2014-09-16 11:52 ` [RFC PATCH v2 15/16] misc: at25: Make use of device property API Mika Westerberg
2014-09-16 11:52 ` [RFC PATCH v2 16/16] misc: at25: Add ACPI probing support Mika Westerberg
2014-09-21  0:26 ` [RFC PATCH v2 00/16] Add ACPI _DSD and unified device properties support Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-24  8:34   ` Lee Jones
2014-09-24  9:45     ` Mika Westerberg
2014-09-22 23:29 ` Bryan Wu
2014-10-01  2:08 ` [PATCH v3 00/15] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-01  2:08   ` [PATCH v3 01/15] ACPI: Add support for device specific properties Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-01  7:38     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-01  2:10   ` [PATCH v3 02/15] Driver core: Unified device properties interface for platform firmware Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-01  7:47     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-01 22:09       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-01 23:01         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-02  7:46         ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-02 16:50           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-02  0:03     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-10-01  2:10   ` [PATCH v3 03/15] ACPI: Allow drivers to match using Device Tree compatible property Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-01  7:48     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-03 13:43     ` Mark Rutland
2014-10-03 17:59       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2014-10-04  0:02         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-01  2:11   ` [PATCH v3 04/15] ACPI: Document ACPI device specific properties Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-01  7:59     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-02 10:41       ` Mika Westerberg
2014-10-02 11:51         ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-02 12:15           ` Mika Westerberg
2014-10-02 12:46             ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2014-10-02 13:36               ` Mika Westerberg
2014-10-02 14:29                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-02 14:38                   ` Mika Westerberg
2014-10-02 14:55                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-03 13:56                       ` Mark Rutland
2014-10-03 15:02                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-03 23:58                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-04 10:56                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-05 21:40                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-03  2:03                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-03  8:12                   ` Mika Westerberg
2014-10-03 13:58                   ` Mark Rutland
2014-10-03 14:38                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-03 14:35                       ` Mark Rutland
2014-10-04  0:13                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-04 10:59                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-05 22:26                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-03 13:48             ` Mark Rutland
2014-10-04  0:16               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-01  2:12   ` [PATCH v3 05/15] gpio / ACPI: Add support for _DSD device properties Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-01  8:03     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-05 10:36       ` Alexandre Courbot
2014-10-05 21:20         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-01  2:14   ` [PATCH v3 06/15] gpio: Support for unified device properties interface Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-01  2:15   ` [PATCH v3 07/15] gpio: sch: Consolidate core and resume banks Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-01  2:15   ` [PATCH v3 08/15] leds: leds-gpio: Add support for GPIO descriptors Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-01  8:05     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-01  2:16   ` [PATCH v3 09/15] leds: leds-gpio: Make use of device property API Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-03 14:07     ` Mark Rutland
2014-10-04  0:18       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-01  2:17   ` [PATCH v3 10/15] leds: leds-gpio: Add ACPI probing support Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-01  8:13     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-01  9:13       ` Mika Westerberg
2014-10-01 10:01         ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-01 11:59           ` Mika Westerberg
2014-10-01 13:52             ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-01 14:04               ` Mika Westerberg
2014-10-01 14:14                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-02  9:55                   ` Mika Westerberg
2014-10-02 10:44                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-01 16:30       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2014-10-01 18:11         ` Darren Hart
2014-10-01 18:21           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2014-10-01 18:22           ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-01  2:17   ` [PATCH v3 11/15] input: gpio_keys_polled - Add support for GPIO descriptors Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-01  8:13     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-01  2:20   ` [PATCH v3 12/15] input: gpio_keys_polled - Make use of device property API Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-01  2:20   ` [PATCH v3 13/15] input: gpio_keys_polled - Add ACPI probing support Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-01  7:48     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2014-10-01  9:15       ` Mika Westerberg
2014-10-01 16:28         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2014-10-02  9:53           ` Mika Westerberg
2014-10-01  2:21   ` [PATCH v3 14/15] misc: at25: Make use of device property API Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-01  8:14     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-01  2:22   ` [PATCH v3 15/15] misc: at25: Add ACPI probing support Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-01  8:15     ` Arnd Bergmann

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