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From: Darren Hart <dvhart@infradead.org>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	David Woodhouse <david.woodhouse@intel.com>
Cc: Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
	Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com>,
	Grant Likely <grant.likely@linaro.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	ACPI Devel Maling List <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
	"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Alexandre Courbot <gnurou@gmail.com>,
	Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>,
	Bryan Wu <cooloney@gmail.com>, Lee Jones <lee.jones@linaro.org>,
	Aaron Lu <aaron.lu@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 07/16] gpio: Add support for unified device properties interface
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 14:15:47 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <D04730D8.A9DB0%dvhart@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2809308.3y5s7TV5Ip@wuerfel>

On 9/23/14, 9:26, "Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de> wrote:

>On Tuesday 23 September 2014 18:25:01 Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
>> The problem is iteration over child nodes of a given one where there
>> may not be struct device objects.
>> 
>> For example (from patch [2/16]):
>> 
>> +int acpi_for_each_child_node(struct acpi_device *adev,
>> +                             int (*fn)(struct fw_dev_node *fdn, void
>>*data),
>> +                             void *data)
>> +{
>> +       struct acpi_device *child;
>> +       int ret = 0;
>> +
>> +       list_for_each_entry(child, &adev->children, node) {
>> +               struct fw_dev_node fdn = { .acpi_node = child, };
>> +
>> +               ret = fn(&fdn, data);
>> +               if (ret)
>> +                       break;
>> +       }
>> +       return ret;
>> +}
>> 
>> and then fn() can be made work for both DTs and ACPI.  Without this we'd
>> need to have two versions of fn(), one for DTs and one for ACPI (and
>>possibly
>> more for some other FW protocols), which isn't necessary in general (and
>> duplicates code etc.).
>> 
>> That actually is used by some patches down in the series (eg. [10/16]).
>> 
>
>Ok, I understand what you are doing now.
>
>Looking at the example you point to
>(http://www.spinics.net/lists/devicetree/msg49502.html), I still feel
>that this is adding more abstraction than what is good for us, and
>I'd be happier with an implementation of gpio_leds_create() that
>has a bit more duplication and less abstraction.
>
>The important part should be that the driver-side interface is
>sensible, other than that an implementation like
>
>static struct gpio_leds_priv *gpio_leds_create(struct platform_device
>*pdev)
>{
>	if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_OF) && pdev->dev.of_node)
>		return gpio_leds_create_of(pdev);
>	else if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_ACPI))
>		return gpio_leds_create_of(acpi);

Arnd, I think you meant:

	Return gpio_leds_create_acpi(pdev) ?

This is what we did early on to prototype this concept, but the problem
with this approach we duplicate all of the creation code, which leads to
maintenance errors, and is inconsistent with the goals of the _DSD which
is to reuse the same schemas for ACPI and FDT. If we have separate pdata
creation functions anyway, we are leaving much of the advantage of the
common schema on the table. Namely the ability to reuse drivers relatively
easily across firmware implementations. We don't want driver authors to
have to care if it's ACPI or FDT.

We would have preferred to have deprecated the of property interface in
favor of the new generic device_property interface, but Grant specifically
requested that we update drivers individually rather than all at once,
which means we can't just kill the OF interface.

We agreed to that, somewhat reluctantly as it adds more work in updating
the drivers over time which will slow adoption, but I understand the
desire not to make large sweeping changes due to the risk of breaking
things inadvertently as we cannot expect to be able to test all of them.
That said, I don't want to forget that the goal is to use the common
interface over time as we convert individual drivers, and using the common
interface means we need a common iterator function and that we not have fw
implementation specific pdata create functions.

--
Darren Hart
Intel Open Source Technology Center






  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-09-23 21:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 130+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-16 11:52 [RFC PATCH v2 00/16] Add ACPI _DSD and unified device properties support Mika Westerberg
2014-09-16 11:52 ` [RFC PATCH v2 01/16] ACPI: Add support for device specific properties Mika Westerberg
2014-10-06 13:50   ` Grant Likely
2014-10-06 14:32     ` Mika Westerberg
2014-10-06 16:25       ` Darren Hart
2014-09-16 11:52 ` [RFC PATCH v2 02/16] Driver core: Unified device properties interface for platform firmware Mika Westerberg
2014-09-17 18:28   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-09-16 11:52 ` [RFC PATCH v2 03/16] ACPI: Allow drivers to match using Device Tree compatible property Mika Westerberg
2014-09-16 11:52 ` [RFC PATCH v2 04/16] ACPI: Document ACPI device specific properties Mika Westerberg
2014-09-16 11:52 ` [RFC PATCH v2 05/16] mfd: Add ACPI support Mika Westerberg
2014-09-16 21:54   ` Lee Jones
2014-09-24 12:00   ` Lee Jones
2014-09-16 11:52 ` [RFC PATCH v2 06/16] gpio / ACPI: Add support for _DSD device properties Mika Westerberg
2014-09-23 15:27   ` Linus Walleij
2014-09-16 11:52 ` [RFC PATCH v2 07/16] gpio: Add support for unified device properties interface Mika Westerberg
2014-09-23 15:25   ` Linus Walleij
2014-09-23 15:45     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-23 15:52       ` Mika Westerberg
2014-09-23 16:17         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2014-09-23 20:31           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-23 16:25       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-23 16:26         ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-23 20:47           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-24  7:55             ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-24 14:08               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-23 21:15           ` Darren Hart [this message]
2014-09-24  9:12             ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-24  9:38               ` Mika Westerberg
2014-09-24 14:11                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-26  3:21               ` Darren Hart
2014-09-26  8:36                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-26 14:42                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-07 13:37                 ` Linus Walleij
2014-10-07 15:37                   ` Andy Shevchenko
2014-10-07 23:57                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-16 11:52 ` [RFC PATCH v2 08/16] gpio: sch: Consolidate core and resume banks Mika Westerberg
2014-09-16 11:52 ` [RFC PATCH v2 09/16] leds: leds-gpio: Add support for GPIO descriptors Mika Westerberg
2014-09-19  8:18   ` Alexandre Courbot
2014-09-24  7:55   ` Linus Walleij
2014-09-24  9:42     ` Mika Westerberg
2014-09-16 11:52 ` [RFC PATCH v2 10/16] leds: leds-gpio: Make use of device property API Mika Westerberg
2014-09-16 11:52 ` [RFC PATCH v2 11/16] leds: leds-gpio: Add ACPI probing support Mika Westerberg
2014-09-16 11:52 ` [RFC PATCH v2 12/16] input: gpio_keys_polled - Add support for GPIO descriptors Mika Westerberg
2014-09-19  8:22   ` Alexandre Courbot
2014-09-24  8:02   ` Linus Walleij
2014-09-16 11:52 ` [RFC PATCH v2 13/16] input: gpio_keys_polled - Make use of device property API Mika Westerberg
2014-09-16 11:52 ` [RFC PATCH v2 14/16] input: gpio_keys_polled - Add ACPI probing support Mika Westerberg
2014-09-16 11:52 ` [RFC PATCH v2 15/16] misc: at25: Make use of device property API Mika Westerberg
2014-09-16 11:52 ` [RFC PATCH v2 16/16] misc: at25: Add ACPI probing support Mika Westerberg
2014-09-21  0:26 ` [RFC PATCH v2 00/16] Add ACPI _DSD and unified device properties support Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-24  8:34   ` Lee Jones
2014-09-24  9:45     ` Mika Westerberg
2014-09-22 23:29 ` Bryan Wu
2014-10-01  2:08 ` [PATCH v3 00/15] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-01  2:08   ` [PATCH v3 01/15] ACPI: Add support for device specific properties Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-01  7:38     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-01  2:10   ` [PATCH v3 02/15] Driver core: Unified device properties interface for platform firmware Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-01  7:47     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-01 22:09       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-01 23:01         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-02  7:46         ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-02 16:50           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-02  0:03     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-10-01  2:10   ` [PATCH v3 03/15] ACPI: Allow drivers to match using Device Tree compatible property Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-01  7:48     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-03 13:43     ` Mark Rutland
2014-10-03 17:59       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2014-10-04  0:02         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-01  2:11   ` [PATCH v3 04/15] ACPI: Document ACPI device specific properties Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-01  7:59     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-02 10:41       ` Mika Westerberg
2014-10-02 11:51         ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-02 12:15           ` Mika Westerberg
2014-10-02 12:46             ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-02 13:36               ` Mika Westerberg
2014-10-02 14:29                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-02 14:38                   ` Mika Westerberg
2014-10-02 14:55                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-03 13:56                       ` Mark Rutland
2014-10-03 15:02                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-03 23:58                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-04 10:56                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-05 21:40                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-03  2:03                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-03  8:12                   ` Mika Westerberg
2014-10-03 13:58                   ` Mark Rutland
2014-10-03 14:38                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-03 14:35                       ` Mark Rutland
2014-10-04  0:13                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-04 10:59                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-05 22:26                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-03 13:48             ` Mark Rutland
2014-10-04  0:16               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-01  2:12   ` [PATCH v3 05/15] gpio / ACPI: Add support for _DSD device properties Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-01  8:03     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-05 10:36       ` Alexandre Courbot
2014-10-05 21:20         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-01  2:14   ` [PATCH v3 06/15] gpio: Support for unified device properties interface Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-01  2:15   ` [PATCH v3 07/15] gpio: sch: Consolidate core and resume banks Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-01  2:15   ` [PATCH v3 08/15] leds: leds-gpio: Add support for GPIO descriptors Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-01  8:05     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-01  2:16   ` [PATCH v3 09/15] leds: leds-gpio: Make use of device property API Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-03 14:07     ` Mark Rutland
2014-10-04  0:18       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-01  2:17   ` [PATCH v3 10/15] leds: leds-gpio: Add ACPI probing support Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-01  8:13     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-01  9:13       ` Mika Westerberg
2014-10-01 10:01         ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-01 11:59           ` Mika Westerberg
2014-10-01 13:52             ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-01 14:04               ` Mika Westerberg
2014-10-01 14:14                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-02  9:55                   ` Mika Westerberg
2014-10-02 10:44                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-01 16:30       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2014-10-01 18:11         ` Darren Hart
2014-10-01 18:21           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2014-10-01 18:22           ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-01  2:17   ` [PATCH v3 11/15] input: gpio_keys_polled - Add support for GPIO descriptors Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-01  8:13     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-01  2:20   ` [PATCH v3 12/15] input: gpio_keys_polled - Make use of device property API Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-01  2:20   ` [PATCH v3 13/15] input: gpio_keys_polled - Add ACPI probing support Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-01  7:48     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2014-10-01  9:15       ` Mika Westerberg
2014-10-01 16:28         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2014-10-02  9:53           ` Mika Westerberg
2014-10-01  2:21   ` [PATCH v3 14/15] misc: at25: Make use of device property API Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-01  8:14     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-01  2:22   ` [PATCH v3 15/15] misc: at25: Add ACPI probing support Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-01  8:15     ` Arnd Bergmann

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