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From: "Michael.Karcher" <Michael.Karcher@fu-berlin.de>
To: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org, linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mips@vger.kernel.org, linux-sh@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, kasan-dev@googlegroups.com,
	linux-xtensa@linux-xtensa.org,
	Michael Karcher <kernel@mkarcher.dialup.fu-berlin.de>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Subject: Re: Calculating array sizes in C - was: Re: Build regressions/improvements in v6.2-rc1
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2023 23:11:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1732342f-49fe-c20e-b877-bc0a340e1a50@fu-berlin.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0d238f02-4d78-6f14-1b1b-f53f0317a910@physik.fu-berlin.de>

Isn't this supposed to be caught by this check:
>>>
>>>          a, __same_type(a, NULL)
>>>
>>> ?
>>
>> Yeah, but gcc thinks it is smarter than us...
>> Probably it drops the test, assuming UB cannot happen.
> Hmm, sounds like a GGC bug to me then. Not sure how to fix this then.


I don't see a clear bug at this point. We are talking about the C expression

   __same_type((void*)0, (void*)0)? 0 : sizeof((void*)0)/sizeof(*((void*0))

This expression is valid (assuming __same_type works, which is a GCC 
extension), and should return 0. As of now, I have no indication that 
this expression does not return 0. Also, it is true that this expression 
contains the suspicious pattern "sizeof(void*)/sizeof(void)", which is 
does not calculate the size of any array. GCC is free to emit as much 
warnings is it wants for any kind of expressions. From a C standard 
point of view, it's just a "quality of implementation" issue, and an 
implementation that emits useless warnings is of low quality, but not 
non-conforming.

In this case, we requested that gcc refuses to compile if it emits any 
kind of warning, which instructs gcc to reject programs that would be 
valid according to the C standard, but are deemed to be "likely incorrect".

I suggest to file a bug against gcc complaining about a "spurious 
warning", and using "-Werror -Wno-error-sizeof-pointer-div" until gcc is 
adapted to not emit the warning about the pointer division if the result 
is not used.


Regards,
   Michael Karcher


  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-19 22:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-12-25 22:07 Linux 6.2-rc1 Linus Torvalds
2022-12-26 19:52 ` Guenter Roeck
2022-12-26 20:56   ` Linus Torvalds
2022-12-26 21:03     ` Kees Cook
2022-12-26 22:10       ` Guenter Roeck
2022-12-27  0:29       ` Guenter Roeck
2022-12-27  1:32         ` Kees Cook
2022-12-27  5:52           ` Guenter Roeck
2022-12-28  3:40             ` Kees Cook
2022-12-28 14:44               ` Guenter Roeck
2023-01-07  0:06                 ` Jaegeuk Kim
2022-12-26 22:41     ` Vlastimil Babka
2022-12-26 21:10   ` Max Filippov
2022-12-26 22:08     ` Guenter Roeck
2022-12-27  8:29 ` Build regressions/improvements in v6.2-rc1 Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-12-27  8:35   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-01-01  1:33     ` Rob Landley
2023-01-01 12:24       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-01-04  6:32         ` Michael Ellerman
2023-01-06 15:10     ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2023-01-06 15:17       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-01-06 15:18         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-01-17 16:42         ` Calculating array sizes in C - was: " John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2023-01-17 17:01           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-01-17 17:06             ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2023-01-17 20:05               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-01-17 20:37                 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2023-01-19 22:11                   ` Michael.Karcher [this message]
2023-01-20  3:31                     ` Rob Landley
2023-01-20 10:53                       ` Segher Boessenkool
2023-01-20 18:29                         ` Michael.Karcher
2023-01-20  8:49                     ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2023-01-20 19:29                       ` Michael Karcher
2023-01-21 21:26                         ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2023-01-06 15:39     ` Alex Deucher
2023-01-04 19:01 ` Linux 6.2-rc1 Pali Rohár
2023-01-04 19:25   ` Linus Torvalds
2023-01-04 20:56     ` Pali Rohár
2023-01-04 21:27       ` Pali Rohár
2023-01-04 21:32       ` Linus Torvalds
2023-01-04 21:43         ` Jens Axboe
2023-01-05 11:25           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-01-05 15:26             ` Jens Axboe
2023-01-05 17:42           ` Pali Rohár
2023-01-05 17:45             ` Jens Axboe
2023-01-05 19:06               ` Linus Torvalds
2023-01-05 19:22                 ` Pali Rohár
2023-01-05 19:40                 ` Jens Axboe
2023-01-05 20:03                   ` Linus Torvalds
2023-01-05 20:33                     ` Jens Axboe
2023-01-06 16:58                       ` Pali Rohár
2023-01-06 17:04                         ` Jens Axboe
2023-01-28 19:34                           ` pktcdvd Pali Rohár
2023-01-28 19:43                             ` pktcdvd Linus Torvalds
2023-01-29 21:53                               ` pktcdvd Jens Axboe
2023-01-29 21:55                             ` pktcdvd Jens Axboe
2023-01-29 22:21                               ` pktcdvd Pali Rohár
2023-01-29 22:34                                 ` pktcdvd Jens Axboe

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